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Can a Muslim man marry ANY ahle-kitab (People of the book) woman?

By Khurshid Imam

A. Introduction

It is widely believed by most of Muslims that a Muslim man can marry any woman from ahle-kitab. Ahle-kitab is Arabic word which refers to people of the book or people who were given previous scriptures by Almighty God. The general understanding about ahle-kitab is that it refers to Jews and Christians.

So Muslims believe that a Muslim man can marry ANY jew or Christian lady.They believe that even if christian lady is mushrik – a muslim can marry her.  However this is an incorrect and incomplete belief.

Wait….. Don’t open your fatwa bank. Just read the complete article.

B. Reason of the misconception

As usual; this misunderstanding is also because of not believing and pondering over the Quran. Quran is the uncorrupted and final message of Almighty God for the mankind. Though God has time and again commanded in the Quran to strongly hold it and take decisions as per the guidance of Quran but Muslims – as a whole –  have failed to do so. Practically majority of Muslims prefer Quran to their set of scholars.

So even on the issue of marriage with Ahle-kitab; people don’t ponder over the Quran to seek guidance and blindly follow their set of scholars. Some Muslims believe that marriage with ALL jew / Christian lady is allowed even though she is a msuhrik!!!

Some Muslims believe that today marriage with Jew / Christian is NOT allowed at all!! So we see the different and contradictory ruling on the same matter because of abandoning Quran.

Note: Mushrik refers to a person who associate partner with Almighty God.

C. Revisiting basics

Though Muslims  day and night swear that “Quran is the word of Almighty God, we should follow the teachings of Quran into our life, we should rule by Quran” – but when it comes to seeking guidance then first thing people do is set aside Quran and look at other sources.

” The month of Ramadhan in which was revealed the Quran, a guidance for the people and clear proofs of guidance and criterion …….” [Quran, Surah Baqrah 2: 185]

Please mark the purpose of Quran.

It is for whole mankind. Quran is not exclusive property of any particular sect, religion, group of race.

Quran contains clear proofs. The proofs given by Quran are self explanatory.

Quran is for guidance purpose. We MUST seek guidance from Quran.

Quran is the criterion – it means in any matter Quran will have the last say; what is right and what is wrong – what Quran decides will be final.

Those who don’t follow rulings from Quran are kafir and fasiq and zalim as per Quran.

It was we who revealed the law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to Allah’s will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah’s book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by what Allah has revealed, they are Unbelievers (kaferoon). [Quran, Surah Maida 5:44]

We ordained therein for them: “Life for life, eye for eye, nose or nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal.” But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for him. And if any fail to judge by what Allah has revealed, they are wrong-doers (Zalemoon). [Quran, Surah Maida 5:45]

Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by what Allah has revealed, they are those who rebel (Faseqoon). [Quran, Surah Maida 5:47]

To you We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee…….;[Quran, Surah Maida 5:48]

And this (He commands): you judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they beguile thee from any of that (teaching) which Allah hath sent down to thee. And if they turn away, be assured that for some of their crime it is Allah’s purpose to punish them. And truly most men are rebellious. [Quran, Surah Maida 5:49]

Above ayah of Quran make very clear that if we judge against the guidance of Quran then it is kufr / zulm / fisq / absolutely wrong. See how much emphasis Allah has given on judging from what he has revealed.

D. Marriage with mushrik is NOT allowed

Quran – the word of Almighty God guide us on this issue in following ayah:

1. Quran, Surah Maida 5:5 – “This day are (all) things good and pure made lawful unto you. The food of the People of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them. (Lawful unto you in marriage) are (not only) chaste women who are believers, but chaste women among the People of the Book, revealed before your time,- when you give them their due dowers, and desire chastity, not lewdness, nor secret intrigues if any one rejects faith, fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (all spiritual good).

2. Quran, Surah Baqrah 2:221 – “Do not marry mushrik (One who associates partner with GOD) women , until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to mushrik until they believe: A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allures you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But Allah beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His Signs clear to mankind: That they may celebrate His praise.

Going by above two ayah it becomes crystal clear that:

1. Marriage with msuhrik (One who associate partner with GOD) is not allowed – both for men and women. In no any case one can marry a person who associate partner with God. Quran 2:221

2. Marriage with women from people of the book is allowed. Quran 5:5 . Also please note that 5:5 emphasize on marriage with CHASTE women among people of the book.

Combining both ayah we realize that ONLY those women from people of the book are lawful for marriage who are NOT mushrik

The mistake many people make is that they read 5:5 in isolation and think that marriage with ALL jew or Christian lady is allowed even if she is a mushrik. This disastrous misunderstanding is because of not taking into consideration all similar ayah of a quran on any particular issue. Let me make it simple.

If you ask a scholar – “Quran, Surah Miada 5:5 makes it lawful to eat food of people of the book. So can a Muslim eat pork made by a jew or Christian?” The reply would be – “No”. Why? Because we need to look at other ayah over the issue of food and then understand 5:5. When we read Quran then we find that Almighty God prohibits pork in 4 places:

Surah Baqrah 2:173

Surah Maida 5:3

Surah Anam 6:145

Surah Nahal 16:115

So the proper understanding will be that pork is prohibited – no matter it is prepared by Muslims or Non Muslim. Rest of other halal food made by Ahle kitab is permitted.

… So 5:5 gives general ruling over food of ahle kitab and marriage with Ahle kitab.

… 2:173, 5:3, 6:145, 16:115 – makes clear that pork is prohibited in all cases.

… 2:221 – makes clear that marriage with mushrik is prohibited in all cases.

So Quran makes ample clear that only those ladies from Jews and Christians are lawful for marriage who don’t associate partner with God. It may possible that an Ahle-kitab lady does not believe in Prophet Muhammad or life hereafter but she does not associate partner with God – then marriage with her is allowed. However if she believes:

a. Prophet Jesus to be son of God.

b. Prophet Jesus to be God.

c. Trinity i.e. unification of 3 gods

…… or such thing that makes her mushrik then marriage with such ladies is NOT AT ALL allowed.

Practically speaking today – very few women will fall under this category with whom marriage is allowed.

E. Conclusion

1. It is a misconception to believe that Islam permits marriage with ANY ahle kitab or Jew / Christian.

2. Marriage with any mushrik is not allowed. No matter, male or female – marriage with them is not allowed in any case.

3. Marriage of Muslim man with ahle-kitab woman is allowed ONLY if she is NOT a mushrik. If she believes:

a. Prophet Jesus to be son of God.

b. Prophet Jesus to be God.

c. Trinity i..e unification of 3 gods

…… or such things that makes her msuhrik then marriage with such ladies is NOT AT ALL allowed.

4. Even if very few ladies (among ahle kitab) will fall under such category with which marriage is allowed, one MUST stick to the commandment of God.

Note: Does Ahle-Kitab means ONLY Jews and Christians? Answer is – No. Wait for the article on this topic in future inshallah.

* If you don’t agree with the mail then instead of giving fatwa of deviation / kufr / shirk / biddat – have faith in Allah and leave it to him to judge.

* Author: Khurshid Imam is software engineer at Bangalore. For any criticism / feedback / suggestion feel free to mail – serviceforhumanity@gmail.com

The article can be found at: http://khurshidimam.blogspot.com/2011/12/marriage-with-ahle-kitab-women.html

Lost Prophets of India
 
Khurshid Imam
 
 
Index
 
A.    Introduction
B.     Hindus / India without Prophet?
C.     Prophet Noah community does not recognize its prophet
D.    Quran, Prophet Noah and Vedas
E.     Prophet Noah, Hindu Scriptures and India
F.     Prophet Adam, Hindu scriptures and India
G.    Prophet Adam was sent to the holy land of India
H.    Hindus and Muslims are lost brothers
I.     Conclusion
 
 
A. Introduction
 
Quran proclaims that messenger or prophet was sent to every nation/ every community. Quran mentions 25 prophets by name. Our Hindu brethren – in India – always come up with this question:
·         Which prophet was sent to India?
·         Is God of Islam discriminatory that he sent all messengers in and around Arab?
·         Today India forms 17% of world population; Hindu community is one of the largest communities of the world – how come Quran is completely absent from mentioning the name of prophet who was sent here?
·         Is Quran only for Arabs so that it mentions about prophets sent to that area but not for Indian peninsula?
 
A knowledgeable Muslim will rightly say – “It is not possible that Quran will mention name and details of each of hundreds of thousands of prophets, else it will become the bulkiest book of the world. Who will read the book whose pages will run into millions? Quran is mainly book of guidance and by mentioning 25 prophets Quran guides us for this world. Surely every community and nation was bestowed with prophet. We don’t know which prophet was sent to India”.
 
This last statement is made depending upon the knowledge and research. Most of Muslim will make this statement. However a deeper study of Quran, hadees (books containing words of Prophet Muhammad), history and other sources will surprise all of us.
 
Please note my beloved Hindu brethren: Most of you have the notion that Islam is a religion “founded” by Prophet Muhammad 1400 years back. Kindly clear this misconception. Nowhere Quran claims that Prophet Muhammad was the founder of any religion NOR God says that through Quran any NEW religion came into existence. God clears that Prophet Muhammad was the seal of prophet (Last prophet) (Refer to Surah Ahzab 33:40) and that Prophet Muhammad was not given any new religion rather the same old age religion of God that was previously given to all prophets.
 
The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah–the which We have sent by inspiration to you–and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses and Jesus: Namely that you should remain steadfast in Religion and make no divisions therein:……….. [Quran, Surah Shura 42:13]
 
So as per Islamic belief there has been Prophet / messenger of God in various places in different era and all of them taught and propagated the same religion of God. This religion is called “Islam” in Arabic language.
Terminologies that will be used in this article: Hadees=Words of Prophet Muhammad compiled in book; Ved= God’s word as per Hinduism; Puran, bhagwad Geeta, Ramcharitmanas= Sacred and revered scripture of Hinduism.
 
 
B. Hindus / India without Prophet?
 
All theist communities – those who believe in religion and existence of God – associate themselves with their Prophet. Even though the belief regarding their prophet is distorted, yet they know him-at least.
 
Community                Book that is considered divine           Prophet
 
Muslims           –          Quran                                             Prophet Muhammad
Christians        –           Bible                                                Prophet Jesus
Jews                –          Old Testament                                 Prophet Moses
Hindus            –           Vedas                                                     ??
 
If you ask a common Hindu; what is the God’s word in Hinduism? Most of them will say Bhagwad Geeta or Ramayana or Mahabharata. But you have to remind them that these all are human written books; only Vedas are claimed to be God’s word in Hinduism. Vedas are considered ishwani (God’s word) or aupaurishya i.e. divine. Though every Hindu loves Ram, Krishna most but he does not attribute Vedas being revealed to any of them. If Vedas are God’s word then there must be someone on whom it was revealed. Our country has lost its prophet in mythological stories. The first recipient of Vedas was the messenger on whom the book was revealed.
 
Allah has mentioned that for every community a prophet was sent.
a. “..For every Qaum (nation or community) there has been a warner [Quran, Surah Ra’d 13:7]
وَلِكُلِّ قَوْمٍ هَادٍ
 
b. “And verily, We have sent among every Ummah (community) a Messenger...” [Quran, Surah Namal 16:36]
وَلَقَدْ بَعَثْنَا فِي كُلِّ أُمَّةٍ رَّسُولًا
 
It will be highly surprising that no prophet was sent to India which happens to be one of the important cradles of human civilization. Definitely some Prophet would have come to this country India among Hindu masses. May be that Prophet is lost into mythological stories.
“Does Quran gives any indication of Hindi community”- is beyond the scope of this article.
 
 
C. Prophet Noah community does not recognize its prophet.
 
Out of all major communities only Hindus have a book (claimed to be God’s word) but not a person who can be associated with it. The Prophet of Hindus is Lost. Hindu community – as a whole does not recognize its prophet.
 
The shock is that – Community of Prophet Noah(Peace be upon him) also does not recognize him as a whole !!!. Look at this very interesting Hadees:
 
 “Allah’s messenger said, “Noah and his nation will come (on the Day of Resurrection) and Allah will ask (Noah), “Did you convey (the Message of God)?’
He will reply, ‘Yes, O my Lord!’
Then Allah will ask Noah’s nation, ‘Did Noah convey My Message to you?’
They will reply, ‘No; no prophet came to us.’
Then Allah will ask Noah, ‘Who will stand a witness for you?’
He will reply, ‘Muhammad and his followers (will stand witness for me).’ So, I and my followers will stand as Witnesses for him (that he conveyed Allah’s Message)………….”
[Sahih Bukhari Volume 60 (Prophetic Commentary on the Quran), Hadees 14;
Sahih Bukhari Book 96 (Holding Fast to the Quran and Sunnah) Hadees 77]
 
Please note down some important points from the above Hadees:
1.      When Allah will ask Prophet Noah whether he conveyed the message of Islam to his people then he will reply YES.
 
2.      When People of Prophet Noah will be asked whether Prophet Noah conveyed them message then what will be the reply of his community? His community will clearly REFUSE to acknowledge any Prophet coming among them. They will; in fact; say that no prophet came among them.
 
3.      So it means people of Noah – as a whole – don’t recognize him as a Prophet.
 
4.      Now who will be witness regarding prophet Noah claim that he came and delivered his message? Ummat (People) of Prophet Muhammad i.e. I and you will be witness. We will bear witness that Prophet Noah did come to his people, delivered his message but his people-as a whole-will not recognize him.
 
5.      Today Hindus are the only theist community who claim to have God’s word but fail to recognize their prophet. Does not this Hadees provide a very strong link between Prophet Noah and Hindus?
 
Hindu brethren do not know their Prophet. They say prophet hood is not part of their faith / culture.
Prophet Noah’s people will refuse to recognize / acknowledge any Prophet coming among them.
 
 
D. Quran, Prophet Noah and Vedas
 
Some very important observations from the Quran:
1. Prophet Noah was the first Prophet with laws.
 
He was first ba-shariat nabi i.e. Prophet who was given complete revelation; laws regarding religion.
Look at the chronological “order” of prophets when Allah speaks about Prophets – especially in context with religion / revelation – then it will always start with Prophet Noah and end with Prophet Muhammad.
 
We have sent you inspiration as we sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him; we sent inspiration to Abraham,  Ismail, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron and Solomon and to David We gave the Psalms. [Quran, Surah Nisa 4:163]
 
The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah–the which We have sent by inspiration to you–and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses and Jesus: Namely that you should remain steadfast in Religion and make no divisions therein……[Quran, Surah Shura 42:13]
 
And (remember) when We took from the Prophets their covenant, and from you and from Nuh (Noah), Ibrahim (Abraham), Musa (Moses), and ‘Îsa (Jesus) son of Maryam (Mary). We took from them a strong covenant. [Quran, Surah Ahzaab 33:7]
 
Let’s take; for example 42:13 of Quran. The Prophets mentioned in chronicle order are:
 
Prophet                                    Revelation                               Today’s community
 
Prophet Muhammad                Quran                                      Muslims
Prophet Jesus                          Injeel                                       Christians
Prophet Moses                        Torah                                       Jews
Prophet Abraham                    Sohfa-e-Ibraheem                   Arabs/Jews
Prophet Noah                              ?                                              ?
 
We see that Prophet Noah is indicated as the first Messenger in these places of Quran. Also from hadees [Sahi Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55, hadith 556; Sahi Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, hadith 236] we know that Prophet Noah was the first ba-shariat nabi i.e. Prophet who was given complete Shariat i.e. laws. This was given in the form of revelation.
 
Also it’s interesting to see that all theist community of people who had God’s word are covered using above equation. Till now we had Hindu community but no prophet. Can Prophet Noah be prophet of Hindus? Prophet Noah has to be prophet of the oldest community or one of the oldest communities.
 
2. Hindu / Indian civilization – oldest civilization
 
Hindus have been claiming for years that they are the oldest religious community. Vedic religion is accepted as oldest religion by historians. No other community in the world claims that its religion is oldest – except Hindus. No wonder Vedas – claimed to be God’s word by Hindus – are said to be Aadi granth which means earliest revelation.
 
Now can you match the dots .. Prophet Noah.. Vedas ..Hindus?
Re-writing Quran, 42:13 in tabular form:
 
Prophet                                    Revelation                               Today’s community
 
Prophet Muhammad                    Quran                                       Muslims
Prophet Jesus                              Injeel                                        Christians
Prophet Moses                            Torah                                       Jews
Prophet Abraham                        Sohfa-e-Ibraheem                     Arabs
Prophet Noah                              Vedas?                                     Hindus?
 
 
3. Does Quran give any indication towards Vedas?
 
Look at this ayah of the Quran:
وَإِنَّهُ لَفِي زُبُرِ الْأَوَّلِينَ
“…wa innahu lafi zuburil awwaleen”- And verily it (Quran) is in earliest revelations.[Quran, Surah Shura 26:196]
 
Translating word Zuburil awwaleen into English; it means: earliest revelations.
Translating word Zuburil awwaleen into Sanskrit; it means Aadi Granth or: earliest revelations.
 
Please keep in mind ONLY holy Vedas are proclaimed as earliest revelations or aadi granth. So this ayah indicates that teachings of the Quran are into aadi granth. Is it possible that Quran is referring to Vedas in this ayah which is claimed as aadi granth  by Hindus?
When we actually look into Vedas then we DO find about tauheed (oneness of God), risalat (Prophet hood), akhrat (Life hereafter) and other aspects of Islam; though shirk is also mentioned (subject to interpretation). There are tons of other similarities between Quran and Vedas – description of which is beyond the scope of this article.
 
So Quran is referring to earliest scriptures of Allah and saying that teachings of Quran are present in that. When we look into Vedas then we do find lot of similarities and fundamentals of Quran present in Vedas.
Here one thing I would like to make clear. Some people may argue that word Zubril awaaleen was not taken as in the sense of Vedas by Sahaba (Companions of Prophet) or others. What we need to understand is that Quran is meant till qiyamah and it’s very eloquent. Every word of Quran is perfect, well balanced, conveying lot of meanings; we understand better and better with the passage of time. This is a big topic. Word Zubril awwaleen meant as “earliest revelations” for earlier Muslims referring to those scriptures of Allah that were sent earlier. That was also correct. Now today – after intellectual evolution we know that a community says that they have earliest revelations; then there is a strong possibility that Quran is referring to this particular book which was revealed earliest.
 
Hindus are claiming that they possess earliest revelations.
Prophet Noah is the prophet of earliest human civilization.
People of Prophet Noah will fail to recognize him – as a whole.
Today Hindus don’t recognize their Prophet.
Can you see the pattern?
 
Now there is one community who claims that it has earliest revelation; historians believe that Vedic religion happen to be earliest religion. Hindus are the only community that claims that it has earliest revelation. So can there be correlation between first Prophet-with-Shariat i.e. Prophet Noah — earliest civilization i.e. People of India — earliest scripture i.e. Vedas?
Are number of dots between Prophet Noah.. Vedas ..Hindus  increasing?
 
4. Idol worship, caste system, Quran and Hindus
 
a. Quran mentions about prophets, their call to people. Also God tells about the crime of those people; what major sins they indulged in. So a prophet’s community is characterized by some of crimes committed by its people. For example people of Prophet Lot are characterized with indulging in homosexuality.
Noah community was the one who was too much engrossed in shirk and idol worship.
Quran mentions about shirk of other community also but Noah people were so much engrossed in shirk and idol worship that Allah has mentioned about their 5 idols.
 
Nuh said: “My Lord! Surely they have disobeyed me and followed him whose wealth and children have added to him nothing but loss. And they have planned a very great plan. And they say: ‘By no means leave your gods, nor leave [the gods] Wadd, nor Suwa; nor Yaghus, and Yauq and Nasr.’ And indeed they have led astray many, and do not increase the unjust in aught but error.” [Quran, Surah Nuh 71:21-23]
 
b. There is an indication of another prevalent sin of Noah’s people. Look these two ayah of Quran:
 
But the chiefs of the Unbelievers among his people (Noah’s people) said: “We see (in) you nothing but a man like ourselves: Nor do we see that any follow you but the meanest among us, in judgment immature: Nor do we see in you (all) any merit above us: in fact we think ye are liars!” [Quran, Surah Hud 11:27]
 
قَالُوا أَنُؤْمِنُ لَكَ وَاتَّبَعَكَ الْأَرْذَلُونَ
 
They (People of Noah who rejected his teachings) said: “Shall we believe in you when it is the meanest that follow you?” [Quran, Surah Shura 26:111]
 
فَقَالَ الْمَلَأُ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِن قَوْمِهِ مَا نَرَاكَ إِلَّا بَشَرًا مِّثْلَنَا وَمَا نَرَاكَ اتَّبَعَكَ إِلَّا الَّذِينَ هُمْ أَرَاذِلُنَا بَادِيَ الرَّأْيِ
 
The Arabic words “ardhalūna and arādhilunāare used in above two ayah respectively which has been derived from the root word rā dhāl lām (ر ذ ل). Both words convey the meaning – “mean /vile/ lowest in status”. Arabic-English Lexicon by Edward William Lane gives the meaning of Arabic word rā dhāl lām (ر ذ ل) as “low, base, vile, or contemptible, in his aspect and states or circumstances ..”. This word is not used for any other people of any prophet. Above two ayah give the idea that some people were considered meanest or lowest among the people of Prophet Noah.
Does this refer to prevalent untouchability or “caste system”? We know that caste system is an important character of Hinduism since centuries. Even today caste-system or untouchability is very unique feature of India.
 
So can we increase number of dots between Prophet Noah – Ved – Hindus / India?
 
Important: Today dalits brethren (People in Hinduism who are considered untouchable or lowest in status) hate “Manu” for the reason that they think that Manu started and propagated caste system. It is fact that the Hindu religious book ManuSmriti does speak volume in favor of caste system yet we don’t know for sure who authored this book. What is 101% guaranteed is that none of prophets can propagate or teach such inhumane teachings. This book is attributed to Manu but for sure; neither Jal-plavan-Manu i.e. Prophet Noah (Peace be upon him) nor swaymBhuva Manu i.e. Prophet Adam (Peace be upon him) taught this. In fact from above two Quranic ayah it’s clear that Prophet Noah acted against the caste system and among his followers were those who were considered meanest and lowest.  
 
 
E. Prophet Noah, Hindu Scriptures and India
 
If a muslim is asked about Prophet Noah  (Peace be upon him)  and the great flood then he / she will immediately tell that during the era of Prophet Noah there was a great flood and this destroyed wrong doers and world life except selected few; and this event is described in Quran, Surah Hud 11:36-44
 
Similarly if a Christian is asked about this incidence he too will tell that Bible speaks about Noah and the great flood in great detail in Bible – Book of Genesis 6:9-22; Genesis Complete 7th chapter.

However the surprising point is that if a learned Hindu is asked about the great flood and Jal-Plavan-Manu i.e. Manu of the great flood then he too can quote Matsya Puran Chapter 1 & 2 and Bhawishya Puaran, Pratisarga Parva, Chapters 4-7 – and tell How God ordered Noah (mentioned as NYUH or MANU) to build a boat and put creatures into the boat and how great flood destroyed the life on land.

1- Vishnu (GOD) had got a boat built by the devtas. (In other accounts, Manu was himself asked to construct the boat). When the earth was flooded, Manu (Prophet Noah) was to place all living beings in the boat and thus save them. ….. And when the waters of the flood receded, Manu (Prophet Noah) could populate the world afresh and rule over it. [Mat’sya Purana 1:29-35]
Source:    http://www.astrojyoti.com/matsyapurana.htm

2- “Then the seven destructive clouds would spring up from vapors… and would rain in torrents till all the seas become united into one great mass. In fact, the whole earth would be covered with one vast expanse of water, then get hold of that yonder boat and put the seed of creation and the sacred Vedasin it.” [Mat’sya Purana 2:10-11]

3- “At the beginning of the re-creation of the universe which would follow the period of destruction (Caused by the Deluge / flood), I shall propagate the Vedicknowledge”. [Mat’sya Purana 2:14-16]

Please note-Vedas and Prophet Noah are referred together in above two references.
Quran speaks about (Nooh used in Quran) Prophet Noah and the great flood event.
Bible tells about (Noah used in bible) Prophet Noah and the great flood event.
Hindu scriptures describe (Nyuh and Manu) Prophet Noah and the great flood event.

Are these mere co-incidences?

Are we telling the same – one event in different scriptures?

DO we have common root; the same event reached different people through different prophets?

The ONE and the same GOD told about this important event to different people in different era through divine revelation / through prophets?

Are we witnessing real incidence of Prophet Noah soaked in mythological stories in puranas?

5. Besides these references about Noah, Let us see some Shlokas (ayah) from the Bhavishya
Purana given by Pandit Ved Prakashs’ book – Vedon aur Puranon Ke Adhar Par Dharmik Ekta Ki Jyoti –  in which there are clear references of other prophets with their original names

“…From them was born a child named Noah. He ruled for 500years. He had three sons: Sim, Sham,Bhav. Noah, the true devotee of Vishnu was engrossed in the Pantheistic meditations. One day Vishnu told him in dream: ‘O dear Noah, listen! on the seventh day there will be a disaster in the form of a Deluge / flood. You immediately embark the Ark along with the People. O’ the devotee of Indra, save your life, you are elevated’. Acting upon this advice this great personage (Noah) constructed an Ark, 300 hath (an arm’s length) long, 50 hath wide and 3000 hath deep. With his family and the couples (male+female) of each creation, he embarked the Ark and started praising Vishnu…. For forty days there were torrential rains as a result of which all the land was flooded and all the four seas united into a great mass… After the Deluge / flood the great mystic Noah resumed life along with the members of his family. Noah’s sons became popularly known as Sam, Ham, Yaqut….”.

In these Shlokas the word “Niyuh” has been used for Noah, whereas Ham and Yaqut are same.

Let’s read this same event from other source; which presents same picture.
“..His son Nyuha (Noah) ruled for 500 years. He had three sons named Sima, Sama and Bhava. Nyuha (Noah) was a devotee of Lord Vishnu. Once the Lord appeared in his dream and said: “My dear Nyuha (Noah), please listen, there will be devastation on the seventh day. Therefore, you have to be very quick that you make a big boat and ride in it. O chief of the devotees, you will be celebrated as a great king”. Then he made a strong boat which was 300 hath (an arm’s length) long, 50 hath (an arm’s length) wide and 30 hath (an arm’s length) high. It was beautiful and all the living entities could take shelter in it. He then himself rode in it, engaged in meditating on Lord Vishnu. Lord Indra called the devastating cloud named Sambartaka and poured heavy rain continuously for 40 days. The whole earth, Bharat-varsa, had merged in the water and four oceans came up together. Only Visala or Badarikasrama was not submerged. There were 80,000 great transcendentalists in Visala who joined with king Nyuha and his family. All of them were saved and everything else was destroyed. [Bhawishya Puran, the Pratisarga Parva, Chapters 4 to 7]
Source: http://www.astrojyoti.com/bhavishyapurana-2.htm
 
Can Hindus, Christians and Muslims feel stronger common bonding?
 
Historical facts and observations attest very close relation between India and Prophet Noah:  
 
“{…….. A French writer, A.J.A. Dubois, who studied the Hindu religion and Indian civilization for forty years subsequently, wrote a voluminous and most authentic book – Hindu Manners, Customs and Ceremonies – of its kind on Hindu rituals, customs, manners and traditions.
Book can be downloaded from http://www.scribd.com/doc/57522848/Hindu-Manners-Customs-and-Ceremonies
Some of the facts, he related in this book will certainly be of vital interest to our readers.
 
a.“…Suffice it to remark that a Celebrated Personage, reverenced by the Hindus, and known to them as MAHANUVU, escaped the calamity in an ark, in which were also the Seven Penitents. The appellation MAHANUVU is worthy of remark. It is a compound of two words-MAHA – great, and NUVU, which is undoubtedly the same as Noah”. [Page 48]
 
b.“It is practically admitted that India was inhabited very soon after the Deluge / flood, which made a desert of the whole world. [Page 100]
 
c.“It is definitely stated in the Markandeya Purana and the Bhagavata  that this event caused the destruction of all mankind, with the exception of the seven famous Rishis or Penitents whom I have often had occasion to mention, and who were saved from the universal destruction by means of an ark, of which Vishnu himself was the pilot. Another great personage, called Manu, who, as I have tried elsewhere to show, was no other than the great Noah himself. [Page 416-417]
 
d. The details about the event of Noah and the Deluge / flood have also been given in the Bhavishya Purana and the Matsya Purana. The word Manu has been used for a number of Hindu religious personages (It is said about Adam that from Manu’s left side shatrupa (i.e. Eve) was created. See Hanuman Prasad Potdar, Ram Charit Manas. (Gita press Gorakhpur, Ed. 15,) P. 154 and Kh. Hassan Nizami Dehlwi, Hindu Mazhab Ki Ma’lumat (Halqa Mashaikh, Delhi edition, 20 December, 1927) P. 6 ) but Manu who figures most in the puranas, the Vedas and other Hindu scriptures is Noah; un-doubted. Even in the Vedas the mention of Noah by the name Manu is at 75 places.
 
e. The English translator-commentator of the Vedas, Griffith writes in explaining the word Manu, in one of the mantras: “Manu is the man par excellence, or the representative man and father of the human race, regarded as the first institutor of sacrifices and religious ceremonies.” This explanatory note is in Griffith’s translation of The Rigveda in Mandal 1:sukt 13: Mantr 4
 
e. Besides these references of Noah in the Vedas and the purans, I am presenting here yet another authentic proof of the affiliation of Hindu race with Noah. Generally speaking, the relation between a race and its prophet can be established by the calendar which, in one way or the other, starts with the prophet himself. For example, Muslims count their calendar from Prophet Muhammad’s Hijrah
(Migration from Mecca to Madina), and the Christians theirs, from the departure of Jesus. Like-wise the Hindu people count the time of their main events from Noah’s times, and, thereby, count the period that elapsed since the Deluge / flood in terms of sixty years as one year.
 
Dubois writes “……the commencement of the true era of the Hindus, that is to say, of their Kali-yuga, dates from about the same time as the epoch of the Deluge / flood-an event clearly recognized by them and very distinctly mentioned by their authors, who give it the name of Jala-pralayam, or the Flood of waters……And curiously enough, in all their ordinary transactions of life, in the promulgation of all their acts, in the their monuments, the Hindus date everything from the subsidence of the flood…… Their public and private events are always reckoned by the year of the various cycles of sixty years which have elapsed since the Deluge / flood.” [Page 416-417]…….}”
 
[“Now or never”-English translation of “Agar Ab bhi Na Jaage To”; Page 14-15]
 
There are several other detailed proofs from Quran and other sources that prove beyond doubt about the event of Noah and great flood in India. For details kindly refer to the above book.
 
An interesting fact- One of my relative – from my wife’s side – hails from bottom most part of India; i.e. in Tamilnadu; his & his family last name is “Noohu”.Any association between Noah and that region? 🙂
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Starting point of Noah flood:
 
{.. We know from the Qur’an that after Noah’s Deluge the Ark of Noah came to rest upon (Mountain) Al-Judi which is located at Kurdistan in Iraq. From the Bible we know that his boat came to rest upon Ararat (Mountain) range. (Judi is a mount of the Ararat range). But commentators have still not been able to say, in which part of the world Noah preached after the Ark came to rest. It has also not been found where Noah was for 600 years prior to Deluge. The Torah merely states that after the Deluge, Noah and his companions assembled together in Babel.
The Qur’an says that water started gushing forth from the Tanur and it was the beginning of the deluge: “(Thus it was) till, when our commandment came to pass and the Al-Tanurgushed forth water. We said: ‘Load there-in two of every kind, a pair (the male and the female)..…” [Quran, Surah Hud 11:40]

‘Tanur’ is not an Arabic but a Persian word used in the sense of an ‘Oven’ in which bread are baked. Most of the commentators have used it in the same sense and only few have taken it to mean the surface of the earth: which means that water gushing forth from the surface of the earth. But in the Qur’an ‘Al’ is used before the word ‘Tanur’ which implies ‘a particular Tanur’. Let us see explanations of the scholars in this regard. 
 
 “If it is said that the word Tanur has a prefix ‘Al’ (used for the definite article in Arabic) then it is most probable that Noah already knew it. Hasan Basri reports that the Tanur was made of stone and Eve used to bake bread in it. Then this Tanur was possessed by Noah and he had been told: ‘Once you see water gushing forth from the Tanur, embark along with your companions in the Ark.”
 
“That this Tanur was of Adam has also been stated by Muhammad Naim Moradabadi in his commentary of the Qur’an. Earlier we have quoted the statement of Ibne Abbas from Tafsire Fath’ul Qadir that the Tanur of Adam was in India. Let us look at it from a different perspective. While collecting together various facts about the word ‘Tanur’, Showkani has written “…..the eighth saying is that it is a place that exists in India.” [Tafsir Fat’hul Qadir, Vol II, P. 474.]
 
It won’t be out of place to mention here that when I searched the word in Indian Railway timetable, I found that a place called Tanur is in Kerala and when I attempted to locate it in the map I found the place Tanur located at the sea shore in the district Malappuram of Kerala. It is on the western shore of India, separated from Arabia by the Arabian ocean. In the light of the above discussed legends can it be supposed that it is the same place wherefrom Noah’s Deluge started, as has been illustrated in the Quran? It correlates all other sayings about Tanur, concluding that the water had started gushing forth from the Tanur situated at the sea shore and the same is called ‘The Tanur of Adam’.…}
[“Now or never”-English translation of “Agar Ab bhi Na Jaage To”; Page 21-22]   

          

 
F. Prophet Adam, Hindu scriptures and India
 
1. Adam – The first human being – the first Prophet – the first Man  “..All are progeny (children) of Manu (Adam)…” [Rigveda 1:45:1]
 
O children of Adam.. ”[Quran Surah Araf 7:26-27,31,35,172; Surah isra 17:70; Surah yasin 36:60]
 
Let me remind you that in Hindu tradition MANU is a title given to 14 great personalities. Two prominent of them are:
Svayambhuva Manu  = Manu who was created without parents=Prophet Adam(Peace be upon him)
Jal-Plavan-Manu = Manu of the great flood = Prophet Noah (Peace be upon him)
 
It has been the consistent belief of Muslims and Christians that God created Adam as the first person. And thereafter Eve (or Hawwa) was created as his spouse and from them human beings originated.
 
O Mankind! We have created you from single pair of male and female…” [Quran Surah Hujrat 49:13]
يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ إِنَّا خَلَقْنَاكُم مِّن ذَكَرٍ وَأُنثَىٰ
 
This same event is described in Hindu scripture.
“Brahma accordingly created two beings from his body, one was male and the other was female. The male half was named Svayambhuva Manu and the female half was named Shatarupa.”
 
Matasya Puran describes in allegorical term that Brahma made two parts of his body and formed two person – one part formed was male known as Svayambhuva Manuand other part formed was female by name Shatarupa. [See Hanuman Prasad Potdar, Ram Charit Manas.(Gita press Gorakhpur, Ed. 15,) P. 154 and Kh. Hassan Nizami Dehlwi, Hindu MazhabKi Ma’lumat (Halqa Mashaikh, Delhi edition, 20 December, 1927) P. 6.]
 
Please note – The word Brahma has been used for Adam in Hari Vansh Puran.
When a Muslim reads the above statement he immediately realizes that this incidence is about creation of Prophet Adam and Hazrat Hawwa (Spouse of Adam). They both were created in the beginning and Puran / Hindu scripture is referring to their creation.
Similarly when a Christian reads the above passage he can understand that this even is about the creation of Adam and Eve which is also mentioned in bible. Refer to Bible, Book of Genesis 2:7-22
Is this just co-incidence?
 
2. Is this also co-incidence?
 
Hazrat Adam was first person who was created without any parents and Matasya puran refers him as Svayambhuva (swaym+bhoo) Manu which in Sanskrit means the Manu who came into existence / was created himself (without any parent)?
Svayambhuva manu and Prophet Adam is the one and the same person by name and by event.
 
Also there has been debate on the meaning and origin of word ADAM. Scholars and researches have tried vaguely to prove Adam being Arabic word or Hebrew word. Probably their attention was not drawn towards the Sanskrit language. According to the Monier-Williams Sanskrit Dictionary, adi means “beginning” or “first”. Similarly sanskrit word Aadim means “The first or most ancient man”. Can it be said that Word Adam refers to the first man?
 
Is it difficult to understand why people in Indian peninsula refer to human being as AADMI?
Also see the name “Nyuh” or “Nooh” and Sanskrit word for boat – “Naav”. Prophet Noah is strongly correlated with the great flood and ark / boat. Noah is Prophet of Ark/boat.
 
3. Hindu Scriptures and Prophet Adam  
 
Also see some Shlokas (ayah) from the BhavishyaPurana given by Pandit Ved Prakashs’ book- Vedon aur Puranon Ke Adhar Par Dharmik Ekta Ki Jyoti
 
Adam and Eve took birth from Vishnu’s (God’s) mud. In the Eastern part of the Paradise, Parmeshwar (God) had constructed a big and beautiful forest spreading over an expanse of 4 Kos (eight miles). Adam’s impatience to see his wife led him to see Eve under the forbidden tree. At once Satan appeared there in the guise of a snake. This cunning enemy cheated Adam and Eve, made them violates the commandment of Vishnu (One of attribute of God), and the husband took the forbidden fruit that led both of them to this terrestrial universe. Both of them sustained by means of the leaves of the wild fig. Subsequently a number of children were born to them, and all of them were called Malechh. Adam lived for 930 years”. 
 
In these Shlokas the word Adam figures as Adam, Eve as Haw’yawati, Paradise as Pradan Nagar (inhabitation of Rewards) and for Satan Kali. Please note – word for Eve here is Hawyawati which is similar to word Hawwa that muslims use for spouse of Prophet Adam. Is this co-incidence?   
 
Let us read this event from another source – which also presents same picture:
“In the eastern side of Pradan city (city of reward i.e. paradise) where there is a big God-given forest, which is 16 square yojanas in size. The man named Adama was staying there under a Papa-Vriksha or a sinful tree and was eager to see his wife Havyavati (Eve or hawwa). The Kali purusha (The Satan) quickly came there assuming the form of a serpent. He cheated them and they disobeyed Lord Vishnu. The husband ate the forbidden fruit of the sinful tree.”
 
स्वर्गलोक से समस्त मानवजाति के पिता का आगमन धरती पर हुआ।उनका नाम आदम था और उनकी पत्नी का नाम हव्वा।
‘‘आदमोनामपुरूषःपत्नीहव्यवतीतथा‘‘                     (भविष्यपुराणप्रतिसर्गपर्व 4, 18)
अनुवाद—   आदम नाम का पुरूष तथा पत्नी का नाम हव्यवती था।
 
Again – both Christians and Muslims can correlate themselves with the above mentioned event of Adam. Quran mentions about this event — Adam-Eve living in paradise, asked not to approach a particular act, then Satan mislead them – in Quran, Surah Baqrah 2:35-36.
Similarly Bible describes this event in Bible, Book of Genesis, Chapter 2: 15 Chapter 3: 1-7.
Again same event – almost same description in three different scriptures. Can there be a common connection for these three?
 
Was there some divine source in India – in the form of messenger and revelation – the traces of which can be found in above described stories?
 
Vedas mention about Prophet Adam, Prophet Noah and Prophet Muhammad.
Prophet Adam was the first person, first prophet, came before Prophet Noah so it’s not surprising that he was mentioned in Vedas.
Prophet Muhammad was the last prophet and he has been prophesized in previous scriptures of God so it’s also not surprising that he is mentioned in Vedas. What is surprising is that no prophet after Prophet Noah is mentioned in Vedas. What does it indicate? Does it indicate that Vedas were contemporary to Prophet Noah? In other words – Vedas were given to Prophet Noah?
 
 
G. Prophet Adam was sent to the holy land of India?
 
1. Muhammad ibn Sa’d ibn Mani’ al-Baghdadi or Ibn Sa’d (Arabic: ابن سعد‎), born in the year 168AH/784CE) and died in 230AH/845CE wrote Kitab Tabaqat Al-Kubra which was a compendium of biographical information about famous Islamic personalities in 8 volumes.
 
He (lbn Sa`d) said: Hishám Ibn Muhammad Ibn al-Sa’ib al-Kalbi informed us on the authority of his father, he on the authority of Abu Salih, he on the authority of Ibn ‘Abbas; he said: Adam was cast down in India and Eve at Juddah. Then he came in her search and reached Jam’a; then Eve joined him, and so the place was known as al-Muzdalifah, and they had come together at Jam’a so it was known as Jam’a. [Ibn Sa’d, AL-TABAQAT AL-KABIR, Volume 1, Parts 1.4.3]
 
2. Adam was sent from the Paradise…. He was cast down on a mountain in India known as Nawdh and Eve cast at Juddah. …, then he built an oven which was inherited by Nuh, and from this oven gushed out boiling water bringing torment in India.
..After that he returned to India.. [Ibn Sa’d, AL-TABAQAT AL-KABIR, Volume 1, Part 1.3.42]
 
3. “Al-Hassan said that Adam descended in India…. Ass’ady related that Adam descended.. in India..”
 
4. At-Tabarani, Abu Nu’aim and Ibn Asakir all related from Abu Hurairah (ra) that the Messenger of Allah (saws) said “Adam (as) descended in India.” And At-Tabarani related the following narration from Abdullah ibn Umar (ra): When Allah made Adam (as) descend, He made him descend in the land of India. He then went to Makkah and afterwards went to Ash-Shams, which is where he died.
 
5. कुरआन के प्रसिद्ध भाष्यकार इब्ने कसीर ने मुस्नदअब्दुर्रज़्ज़ाक़ को उद्धृत करते हुए अपने भाष्य में लिखा है कि
‘‘. आदम . भारत की भूमि पर उतरे थे।उनका क़द बहुत लम्बा था।‘‘
 
     ईशदूत. मुहम्मद . सत्संगिंयों तथा अन्य मुस्लिम संतों और इतिहासकारों की एक बड़ी संख्या से यही उल्लिखित है कि पृथ्वी के पहले मानव ने, जो ईश्वर के पहले दूत भी थे, अपना पहला क़दम भारत में रखा।उन्होंने अपनी संतान में ईशप्रदत्त सनातनधर्म (अरबी भाषा में दीनक़य्यिम) का प्रचार प्रसार किया और बाद में समय समय पर संसार के विभिन्न भागों में ईशदूतों ने उसी एक ईश्वरीय धर्म को पुनर्जीवित किया।
 
आदम या आदिम शब्द, जिसका अर्थ है ‘‘सबसे पहला‘‘, भारतीय मूल का होना भी यही सिद्ध करता है कि आदिमानव भारत में उतरा।उसी को बाद में भारतीय साहित्य में आदिमनु या स्वयंभूमनु कहा गया।
 
स्वायंभू मनु अरू सतरूपा।जिन्हतेंभैनरसृष्टिअनूपा।।
दंपत्ति धरम आचरण नीका। अजहुँ गाव श्रुति जिन्हकैलीका।।
(रामचरितमानस, दो. 141, चौ. 1)
 
अर्थात स्वायम्भूवमनु और उसकी पत्नी शत्रूपा जिनसे मनुष्यों की यह अनुपम सृष्टि हुई, इन दोनों पति पत्नी के धर्म और आचरण बहुत अच्छे थे आज भी वेद जिनकी मर्यादा का गान करते हैं।अरफ़ात, पति पत्नी के मिलने का स्थान    इस्लामी परंपरा के अनुसार आदम की पत्नी हव्वा को स्वर्ग लोक से जिद्दा (सऊदीअरब) में उतारा गया।दोनों एक दूसरे को तलाशते रहे, यहां तक कि दोनों की मुलाक़ात अरफ़ात में हुई जो मक्का से 12 किमी. दूर एक निर्जन खुले क्षेत्र का नाम है।हज के महीने की  9वीं तारीख़ को सुबह चलकर अरफ़ात पहुंचना और सूर्य अस्त से पहले तक समय वहां ईश्वर से प्रार्थना आदि में बिताना हज का सबसे प्रमुख अंग है।
 
In the above Hindi Quotation – Ramcharitmanas – revered book of Hinduism speaks about Adam, and his wife Hawwa.
 
Here it is important to mention that ahadees speaking about Prophet Adam’s descent in India has been declared weak by Muhaddesseen (those who collect Hadees); but few points that are important are:
a)      We don’t find any Sahi Hadees contradicting this.
b)      We don’t find other ahadees referring to other places apart from India.
c)      Weak / dhayeef Hadees does not mean unauthentic but absence of other chain of narrations; lesser number of people narrating Hadees etc.
d)     Moreover we have seen lot of other proofs and will see further that gives strong indication towards Prophet Adam being in India.
 
 
6. Adam’s peak
 
There is a big foot-print in Sri-Lanka (See the below picture) which is revered by people from different faith. Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Buddhist – all have great respect and honor for this foot print as they correlate it with their religion. It is a 1.8 meters (5 ft 11 in) rock formation near the summit, which in Buddhist tradition is held to be the footprint of the Buddha, in Hindu tradition that of Shiva and in Muslim and Christian tradition that of Adam, or that of St. Thomas.
 
 
 
Muslim researchers and Scholars have time and again attested to the belief that prophet Adam descended to India and lived here. India was the blessed land where human civilization started.
 
a. Prophet Hazrat Syedina Azam Alaihis salatus salaam’s Peak (Famous as Adam’s Peak) – The First Foot Mark on Earth by Hazrat Adam (Alaihis Salaam)
 
 
 
Jutting sharply skyward from the lush jungles of southwestern Sri Lanka is the 7362 foot (2243 meter) peak of Sri Pada, the ‘Holy Footprint’. Also called Adam’s Peak, the mountain has the unique distinction of being sacred to the followers of four of the world’s major religions: Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity and Islam. Long before the development of these religions, however, the mountain was worshipped by the aboriginal inhabitants of Sri Lanka, the Veddas. Their name for the peak was Samanala Kanda; Saman being one of the four guardian deities of the island. For Hindus, the name of the mountain is Sivan Adi Padham, because it was the world-creative dance of the god Shiva that left the giant footprint (5 feet 7 inches by 2 feet 6 inches). According to Buddhist traditions from as early as 300 BC, the real print is actually beneath this larger marking. Imprinted on a huge sapphire, it was left by the Buddha during the third and final of his legendary visits to Sri Lanka. When Portuguese Christians came to the island in the 16th century they claimed the impression to be the footprint of St. Thomas who, according to legend, first brought Christianity to Sri Lanka.
 
The mountain is more easily seen from the sea than from land, and also more impressive. Early Arab seafarers fascinated with the pyramidal peak wrote of it as “the highest mountain in the world” (it is not even the highest in Sri Lanka), and “visible from three days sail”. The ancient Sinhalese also believed it to be of great height and a native legend tells “from Seyllan to Paradise is forty miles, and the sound of the fountains of Paradise is heard here”. Visited by many early world travelers, among them the Arab Ibn Batuta (1304-1368) and the Venetian Marco Polo (1254-1324), Adam’s Peak attained a legendary status as a mystic pilgrimage destination. Today the pilgrimage season commences in December and continues until the beginning of the monsoon rains in April (from May to October the mountain is obscured by clouds). Certain parts of the path leading up the mountain are extremely steep and the climbing chains secured in these sections are said to have been placed by Alexander the Great (365-323 BC), though there is no evidence that he made it this far south on his Asia travels. Atop the peak is an oblong platform (74 x 24 feet) where stands a small Buddhist temple and the shrine of Saman with the strange footprint. Votive offerings are made here, especially of a coil of silver as long as the donor is tall, for recovery from sickness; and rain-water taken from the footprint is known to have a wonderful healing power. Adam’s Peak is also called Samanalakande or the ‘butterfly mountain’ because of the myriads of small butterflies that fly from all over the island to die upon the sacred mountain.
 
b. Islamic literature tells us that Prophet Adam descended directly from the heaven on Indian soil. India was his first domicile and the entire human race has spread from here. For this very reason the nomenclature A’dmi is used to denote human being. We find numerous references to this effect in Muslim magnum opus i.e. Subhatul Marjan Fi Tarikhe Hindustan, written by the celebrated Islamic scholar Allama Ghulam Ali Azad Bilgrami.
The above is an edited version of a long article by the late Maulana Hussain Ahmad Madani, translated from Urdu by Mohammad Anwer Hussain.
 
7. Adam bridge
 
Last but not least is the bridge connecting India and Sri-Lanka. It is popularly known as Adam’s bridge. Some of our Hindu brethren have started making claim that this bridge was built by Shri Ram and his Vaanar-Sena.
 
Wikipedia says – “Adam’s Bridge also known as Rama’s Bridge or Rama Setu is a chain of limestone shoals, between Pamban Island, also known as Rameswaram Island, off the southeastern coast of Tamil Nadu, India, and Mannar Island, off the northwestern coast of Sri Lanka.
Geological evidence suggests that this bridge is a former land connection between India and Sri Lanka” Geologists have strong view that this path – Adam’s bridge – was formed naturally without any human intervention.
Also please note that it’s very difficult – as of today – to estimate the date of existence of Prophet Adam. Whatever it may be it certainly belongs to pre-historic era. May be 10,000 year+; may be 50,000 year +; may be 1,00,000+ – we don’t know for sure. But one thing that we know from geography is that map of the world has not been same throughout history. It changes over long period of history.
Map of India and Sri-Lanka was not exactly same thousands and millions of years back – as it is today. Most probably – India and Sri-lanka was one part that time. Geologists suggest that initially whole land was joined together and was one single land – known as supercontinent and gradually formation of continents took place and continents started drifting away from each other.
What was map of India and Saudi Arab during early period of human habitation? This is an interesting topic which is beyond the scope of the article.
But at least – we have strong indication that when Adam descended on earth then India and Sri-Lanka was one single entity. This region was the blessed land where first human being came.
 
 
H. Hindus and Muslims are lost brothers
 
It is possible that you would not be satisfied with one or some proofs presented in the article citing it not to be – very authentic; however one cannot ignore large numbers of proofs presented from various sources (Quran, Hadees, Ved, Puran, History, Tradition and culture) all indicating that Prophet Noah and Prophet Adam were sent to India. Moreover we don’t find the contrary; i.e. we don’t have proofs regarding these Prophets coming to some other part of world.
 
The vague picture behind the dirt of history is the picture of a great nation, a great civilization, the cradle of human civilization, the blessed land of India – loosing pure religion into mythological stories; forgetting its blessed past; making hundreds of gods; forgetting its Prophets….. traces of which can be found even today in various ways.
Hindus and Muslims are lost brothers.
 
{ .. “A. The Hindus are the earliest race with Shari’at (the Revealed Law) and the Muslims the last and God’s wisdom has assembled them together in one country, India.
 
B. All the ancient temples and mosques in india have been consutructed facing Kaaba. Dubois writes in his book: “The structure of the large temples, both ancient and modern, is everywhere the same….. Their architectural monuments, such as they exist today……. the entrance of the great pagodas….. Faces the east, a position which is observed in all their temples, great and small.” [Hindu Manners, Customs and Ceremonies. Page 579.] The Muslims know the reason of their mosques being in this direction, towards Ka’aba, but the Hindus do not. Different people give different explanations but no one has got the factual knowledge. May it be due to their old association with Ka’aba a fact which they have absolutely forgotten now? The customs have still remained where as the reality is lost. Even the pyre of the Hindus, like the graves of the muslims, is always in the North-South direction. C. The Muslims circumbulate Ka’aba seven times during Haj and Umrah 3 and the Hindus, at the time of marriage, take pledge after making seven rounds around fire.
 
D. The attire the Muslims use at the time of Haj, consists of the two pieces of unstitched cloth, one fastened round the waist and another to cover the upper body. Since thousands of years the Hindus too have been wearing the similar kind of dress at the time of visiting the places of pilgrimage. This dress is considered so sacred by them that in its changed version their men have been using it in the form of ‘Dhoti’ and women in the form of ‘Sari’ even in their diurnal life.
 
E.  At the time of Haj and Umrah it is compulsory for the Muslims to cut hair and better still to shave it. The Hindus too have been shaving off their hair at the time of pilgrimage for thousands of years.
 
F. While performing Haj or Umrah when the Muslims are in Ahram (the holy dress) their men are not allowed to wear such shoes as would cover their insteps. During these days Hawai Chappals are used so that only two fillets remain on the insteps and no difficulty is caused while walking also. While on pilgrimage the Hindus have always been using filletless wooden sandals having only a peg like thumb on them.
 
G. The Muslims name the child on A’qiqah(The Muslim ceremony of shaving the head of a newly born child on the seventh day after birth and a sacrifice made on that day) and shave his head. The Hindus from the early beginning shave the head of the baby at a similar occasion, called by them Namkaran Sanskar.
 
H. Can you  even imagine that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) had borrowed (God forbid) these manners and customs from Hinduism 1400 years ago? The fact is that this race has an old affiliation with ka’aba and they are the only religious community in the world that has still retained its traditions even in the form of meaningless rituals. If Noah had given these customs connected with Ka’aba to his people, then Moses and Jesus too would have given to theirs. With the passage of time, the truth about Ka’aba has been lost. While the various other races have lost these related customs too, it (Hindu race) is the only race that has still retained them in one or the other form. There are hundreds of identical examples which I am not quoting here for fear of prolonging this discussion, but it must be clearly understood that the unique and precious quality of this race is that if their lost truths are revived back for them, then their understanding of Islam will be easier as compared to other races. The defect of ignoring the reality at the cost of rites has already crept in even amongst the Muslims.
 
It has been realized by the famous Urdu poet Iqbal when he said:
The reality is lost in the stories- this community is lost in absurdities.
 
1. But the book given to the Muslims and the Prophet sent unto them are preserved and protected till the Last Day. The Muslims will find their lost realities and essentials once they refer to the Qur’an and the Holy prophet. If the Vedas, as the Hindu scholars assert, is the name of the divine knowledge and not of any particular book, then it is to be concluded that the Book as well as prophet of the Hindu race are lost. We can return their essentials to them once we search their prophet and the Scripture for them.” }
 
[“Now or never”-English translation of “Agar Ab bhi Na Jaage To”; Page 19-20]
 
Regarding Prophet Muhammad, Prophet Jesus, Prophet Adam, Prophet Noah and details of the great flood etc and Hindu Scriptures / India; Kaaba in Hinduism; association of India with Kaaba; Ved and its exact status; Are Hindus referred in Quran; tons of other similarities between Islam and Hindu scriptures – kindly refer to the book “Agar ab bhi na jaage to” / “Now or Never” mentioned in the last part of article. It is available in English, hindi and urdu.
 
 
I. Conclusion
 
1. The general belief is that Quran / Islam is silent about any prophet in Indian Peninsula. Hindu brethren argue why Allah did not send any Prophet/messenger to India?
2. Among theist communities only Hindus are completely dissociated with the concept of Prophet hood and they don’t associate themselves with any Prophet.
3. Word of Prophet Muhammad tells us that people of Prophet Noah will not recognize him on the day of judgment; they will not acknowledge that any Prophet came among them.
4. Hindu brethren claim that they are the oldest civilization. They possess the oldest revealed book Vedas. Historian has no objection against it. Quran gives several clues regarding Prophet Noah being the prophet of first human civilization who was given complete shariat or laws.
5. Quran, hadees, Hindu scriptures, history, observations make sure that Prophet Noah was sent as messenger in India, the great flood started here, wrong-doers got destroyed. Even after the flood Prophet Noah came to India.
6. Prophet Adam was also sent to India, India is the blessed land from where Prophet hood started.
7. India and Hindus still maintain several tradition and practices that tells us that the pure & original Sanatan Dharam i.e. Islam started from this pavitr (sacred) land.
 
 
Important Note: This article is primarily and heavily based on the revolutionary work of Acharya Maulana Shams Naved usmani (May God bless him) – authored by Allama Syed Abdullah tariq Sahb (May God bless him;give good health) in – the book “Agar Ab Bhi Na Jaage to”. 
 
“The book which created a sensation in Urdu circles and transformed the outlook of more than a million Muslims vis-a-vis their Hindu brethern and Sanatan Dharma. Based on a part of comparative religious work of the great Saint and Scholar Maulana Acharya Shams Naved Usmani, ‘Agar ab bhi na jaage to’— written by his favorite disciple S. Abdullah Tariq, has now been translated by Dr. A. H. Tak, reader dept. of English, Srinagar University..”
 –opening page of the book “Now or Never” (English translation of “Agar Ab Bhi Na Jaage to”)
 
1. Download the original book – in Urdu – “Agar Ab Bhi Na Jaage to” from here:
 
2. Download the English Translation – “Now or Never” from here:
 
3. Download the Hindi Translation – “Agar Ab Bhi Na Jaage to” from here:
 
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Author Khurshid Imam is software engg at Bangalore, India. For any criticism / feedback kindly mail to serviceforhumanity@gmail.com
 
 
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Can Muslim say SALAAM to non Muslim?

 By Khurshid imam

  1. Introduction

 One of the issues that are of much discomfort for our Hindu brethren is the issue of Salaam. Many Hindus complain that when they greet Muslims with Salaam or AsSalaam  o alaikum then Muslims  don’t say walaikum asSalaam . Our Hindu brethren expect walaikum asSalaam from Muslims. “Why Muslims don’t say Walaikum AsSalaam to us”? – is one of the questions very often asked by non Muslims to Muslims.

On the other hand most of Muslims are of the idea that a Muslim can not say Salaam or AsSalaam  o alikum or walaikum asSalaam  to any non Muslims. One can find lot of fatwas (religious verdict) against saying Salaam to non Muslim. The same group of Muslims is also of the idea that it is prohibited to seek forgiveness or do dua of maghfirat to any non Muslim.

What is the reality if this issue? Can a Muslim say Salaam to non Muslim? Can a Muslim do dua (prayer or supplication) of forgiveness for non Muslim / mushrik / kafir? Let’s understand this issue with unbiased and open mind.

* Salaam  means ‘Peace’. AsSalaam  o alaikum means ‘Peace be upon you’. walaikum asSalaam   means ‘Peace be upon you too’.

* Mushrik means one who associates partner with God. In simple words one who worship something else as God.

 2. Claim of some Muslims and the misunderstanding

 Some Muslims claim that Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) has told to not to initiate Salaam to non Muslims. Also people say that Prophet told us to say only walaikum when greeted by a non Muslim.

 This wrong conclusion is the result of failing to derive correct guidance from hadees.

Claim of such people is based on following ahadees mainly:

A> Narrated AbuHurayrah Allah’s Messenger  said: Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it. (Hadith – Sahih Muslim, Book 026, Number 5389)

B> ‘A’isha reported that some Jews came to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) and they said: Abu’l-Qasim (the Kunya of the Holy Prophet), as-Sam-u-‘Alaikum (Death be upon you), whereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Wa ‘Alaikum (On you too). A’isha reported: In response to these words of theirs, I said: But let there be death upon you and disgrace also, whereupon Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: ‘A’isha, do not use harsh words. She said: Did you hear what they said? Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Did I not respond to them when they said that; I said to them: Wa’Alaikum (let it be upon you). (Hadith – Sahih Muslim, Book 026, Number 5386)

By quoting these types of ahadees people arrive at the conclusion that:

a. A muslim should only say WALAIKUM when greeted by non Muslims.

b. A muslim should not initiate Salaam to non Muslims.

 3. Reason for the misunderstanding

 Again: the most commonly repeated mistake of the majority of Muslim. Not understanding an issue UNDER THE PRINCIPLE OF QURAN. When people don’t look at Quran, don’t analyze what Allah has revealed, don’t ponder over how Quran has guided and directly try to reach at conclusion just by looking at hadees in isolation then they are bound to make mistake.

Based on mainly above ahadees people conclude that it’s not allowed to say Salaam to ALL non Muslims. This erroneous and false understanding is due to:

a> Not understanding an issue under the guidance of Quran.

b> Not considering Quran as the ultimate guidance and final criteria from almighty God.

c> Taking the meaning of hadees by completely ignoring the context, background of issue.

d> Also people don’t try to find out if the ruling was only for certain people and for certain time or for all people till the day of qiyamah.

4. Ahadees under consideration

 As far as above ahadees are concerned then following points should be very clear to all:

1. “Do not initiate Salaam with them….” – It is not difficult to understand that this injunction was specifically when Muslims were going to Banu Quraizah – who were in hostile terms with Muslims. And these Jews were the open enemy of Islam who has rejected the prophet hood of Prophet Muhammad even though prophet was alive among them. People who rejected Prophet Muhammad as Prophet were much severe in kufr (denying) compared to today’s non Muslims  – as far as rejecting prophet hood is concerned because that time Prophet was alive among them.

2. “……this hadîth relates to “a state of hostilities” which had erupted at that time against the Muslims. It was, in fact, at the time of the campaign against Banû Qurayzah. This is established by another authentic hadîth where the Prophet [peace be upon him] said: “…We are going forth in the morning against a group of Jews, so do not initiate the greeting of Peace with them….” [ Musnad Ahmad 26695 and Mu’jam al-Tabarani al-Kabir  22 / 291. See also Musnad Ahmad 16844 and.17584.]. Ibn Hajar al-`Asqalani relates the same from al-Bukhari’s al-Adab al-Mufrad and from Sunan.al-Nasa’I while.discussing.this.topic.in.“Fath.al-Bari”.[.11./.39.]

3. The second hadees is very clearly mentioning why Prophet told walaikum. It says that since Jews wished death to prophet by saying “as-Sam-u-‘Alaikum” i.e. death be on you so he replied Walaikum i.e. same to you. Is it difficult to understand why prophet said ONLY walaikum? Do non Muslims around you wish you by saying ‘Death be on you’? Obviously not. So this commandment of prophet was specific to a particular situation and not a general commandment for all non Muslims till the day of qiyamah.

4. If someone is hell bend on taking these ahadees without context, situation and background and argues – “No No! Since ahadees tells us not to initiate Salaam  to Jews and Christians so one should not greet ANY non Muslims ” – then my argument is –  “OK, so using this understanding it can be said that hadees speaks about not initiating Salaam  to Jews and Christians; it does not prohibit initiating Salaam  to Hindus, jainis, Buddhist, Sikh etc – So it means one can say Salaam  to Hindus and all other non Muslims except Jews and Christian – do you agree???” Can you get me fatwa from any scholar that saying Salaam to jews and Christians is prohibited but it is allowed for other faith people like Hindus, Buddhist, Sikh etc? It is very obvious one will not get such fatwa.

Also the first hadees also mentions that “when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it” – if you believe that this hadees injunction was for you also today then will you force your Christian friends or teachers to narrow path when you meet them in road? No! This instruction was temporary in nature for a specific case.

5. Also if you consider this commandment of Prophet to be generic in nature and for all non Muslims till the day of qiyamah then you should realize that this judgment contradicts Quran. Wait!!!! Don’t open your fatwa bank. Have patience. Kindly read complete article to find out what ruling Almighty God has given to us in this matter. If Almighty God has guided us that we can say Salaam to non Muslims (Not each and every non Muslim) and seek forgiveness for them (Not each and every non Muslim) then can prophet go against the rulings of God? No! Never! Impossible.

6. The commandment of Prophet not to initiate greetings to SOME of non Muslims is in perfect harmony with the guidance of Quran (It is explained later). To what kind of non Muslims we should not initiate Salaam ? For what kind of non Muslims we can not do dua of forgiveness? Read these in later part of article.

5. Revisiting basics

 A. Quran is NOT the book of history or story but it’s the book of guidance

 Though Muslims  day and night swear that “Quran is the word of Almighty God, we should follow the teachings of Quran into our life, we should rule by Quran” – but when it comes to seeking guidance then first thing people do is set aside Quran and look at other sources.

Remember: Though quran contains science, history, mathematics, logic etc – its MAIN purpose is guidance of mankind. When it tells you events of past prophet and past community then it is not for only for information but it is for giving guidance. When Quran tells the crime of past community then you should not think that – “Ok! This was the crime of past community. thats it!!”. No No! This incidence is mentioned in quran to warn you, so that you don’t commit error committed by past community, you should take guidance from these events. So the purpose of revelation for Quran is to get guidance and then rule your life by that.

The month of Ramadhan in which was revealed the Quran, a guidance for the people and clear proofs of guidance and criterion …….” [Quran, Surah Baqrah 2: 185]

Please mark the purpose of Quran.

  1. It is for whole mankind. Quran is not exclusive property of any particular sect, religion, group of race.
  2. Quran contains clear proofs. The proofs given by Quran are self explanatory.
  3. Quran is for guidance purpose. We MUST seek guidance from Quran.
  4. Quran is the criterion – it means in any matter Quran will have the last say; what is right and what is wrong – what Quran decides will be final.

 B. Those who don’t follow rulings from Quran are kafir and fasiq and zalim

 Quran is word of Almighty God.

Quran is word of Almighty God.

Quran is word of Almighty God.

No wonder Muslims claim Quran to be word of God loudly but when it comes to ACTUALLY believing and practicing it they fail miserably.

Quran says that one MUST judge as per the revelation of Almighty God.

It was we who revealed the law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to Allah’s will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah’s book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by what Allah hath revealed, they are Unbelievers (kaferoon). [Quran, Surah Maida 5:44]

We ordained therein for them: “Life for life, eye for eye, nose or nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal.” But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for him. And if any fail to judge by what Allah hath revealed, they are wrong-doers (Zalemoon). [Quran, Surah Maida 5:45]

Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by what Allah hath revealed, they are those who rebel (Faseqoon). [Quran, Surah Maida 5:47]

To you We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee…….;[Quran, Surah Maida 5:48]

And this (He commands): you judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they beguile thee from any of that (teaching) which Allah hath sent down to thee. And if they turn away, be assured that for some of their crime it is Allah’s purpose to punish them. And truly most men are rebellious. [Quran, Surah Maida 5:49]

Above ayah of Quran make very clear that if we judge against the guidance of Quran then it is kufr / zulm / fisq / absolutely wrong. See how much emphasis Allah has given on judging from what he has revealed.

  C. Quran permits saying Salaam  to non Muslims. It prohibits only for a certain types of non muslims

 I know very well that i have taken much time before arriving at the crux of the article – the reason is: to remind Muslims about the basics of Islam. Muslims – by large- have abandoned Quran and that is what will be complain of Prophet on the Day of Judgment.

Oh my Lord! My people have abandoned this Quran” Quran, Surah Furqan (25) – Ayah 30

Let’s see What Almighty God has told us about the greetings or saying Salaam or seeking forgiveness for non Muslims.

A. “When you are greeted with a greeting, greet in return with what is better than it, or (at least) return it equally” [Quran – Surah al-Nisa’ 4:86]

In the above ayah Allah mentions a generic rule regarding greeting – that when anyone wishes you with a greeting then you should respond with better greeting or at least with equal greeting.

B. “And the servants of (Allah) Most Gracious are those who walk on the earth in humility, and when the ignorant address them, they say, ‘Salaam !’ (Peace).” [Al-Qur’an, Surah Furqan 25:63]

Here also Allah instructs us that as a good believer we should be humble and when dealing with jahil or ignorant (they may be Muslim or non muslim) we should say Salaam.

C. “And when they hear vain talk, they turn away there from and say: ‘to us our deeds, and to you yours; Salaam  u alaikum (peace be to you): we Seek not the ignorant.’ ” [Al-Qur’an, Surah Qasas 28:55]

Here again Almighty God instructs us that when vain talk or useless talk is going on then turn away from such group (they may be Muslims or non muslims) by saying AsSalaam  u alaikum.  Here also Quran proves that it’s allowed to say Salaam to non Muslims.

D. Then Allah makes crystal clear in the matter of saying Salaam to non Muslim or kafir or mushrik and also about doing dua of maghfirat for them i.e. seeking forgiveness for them.

And mention in the Book (the Qur’an) Ibrahim (Abraham). Verily he was a man of truth, a Prophet.

When he said to his father: “O my father! Why do you worship that which hears not, sees not and cannot avail you in anything?

“O my father! Verily there has come to me of the knowledge that which came not unto you. So follow me, I will guide you to the Straight Path.

“O my father! Worship not Shaitan (Satan). Verily Shaitan (Satan) has been a rebel against the Most Gracious (Allah).

“O my father! Verily I fear lest a torment from the Most Gracious (Allah) should overtake you, so that you become a companion of Shaitan”

He (the father) said: “Do you reject my gods, O Ibrahim (Abraham)? If you stop not (this), I will indeed stone you. So get away from me safely (before I punish you).”

قَالَ سَلَامٌ عَلَيْكَ ۖ سَأَسْتَغْفِرُ لَكَ رَبِّي ۖ إِنَّهُ كَانَ بِي حَفِيًّا

Ibrahim (Abraham) said: “Peace be on you! (AsSalaam  u alikum) I will ask Forgiveness of my Lord for you. Verily He is unto me Ever Most Gracious.

 [Quran – Surah Maryam 19:41-47]

E. Finally Almighty God describes the universal principal regarding saying Salaam and seeking forgiveness for non Muslims.

It is not (proper) for the Prophet and those who believe to ask Allah’s Forgiveness for the Mushrikun, even though they be of kin, after it has become clear to them that they are the dwellers of the Fire.

And Ibrahim’s (Abraham) invoking (of Allah) for his father’s forgiveness was only because of a promise he [Ibrahim (Abraham)] had made to him (his father). But when it became clear to him [Ibrahim (Abraham)] that he (his father) is an enemy of Allah, he dissociated himself from him. Verily Ibrahim (Abraham) was Awwah (one who invokes Allah with humility, glorifies Him and remembers Him much) and was forbearing.

[Quran – Surah Tauba 9:113-114]

Here is the key to the whole issue. Few important points from above two references i.e Surah maryam 19:41-47 and Surah Tauba 9:113-114

1. Prophet Abraham invited his father to monotheism. His father was a mushrik who was committing shirk (Associating partner with Almighty God) knowingly. We know father of Prophet Abraham used to make idol for worship purpose.

2. His father rejected the invitation and got angry at Abraham. He threatened Prophet Abraham with stoning-to-death and asked him to leave. Thus in simple words – Prophet Abraham invited his father to the religion of God and his father rejected it thus becoming kafir.

3. But even then Prophet Abraham said Assalam u alaikum i.e Peace be upon you. Not only this, but also Prophet Abraham told that he will seek forgiveness for his father from Allah i.e he would do dua of maghfirat for his father. Imagine!

4. And afterwards when he became dead sure (After continuous and strong rejection of Islam by his father) that his father will never return to truth that he stopped praying for his father.

5. Allah gives a principal here that if you are dead sure that a person will never return to the truth then you should not seek his forgiveness or do dua of maghfirat or say SALAM.. Before this one CAN do dua of maghfirat or seek forgiveness from God or say Salam.

6. So in layman’s language one can say:

No Salam category> You feel that this person has constantly rejected the truth of God after being explained about Islam many times and he will never ever return to deen of almighty God then you can NOT say Salam to him.

 If it is not the case No Salam category> then you CAN do Salam or seek his forgiveness from God.

 How many non Muslims around you fall under category < No Salam category >??? Hardly a few!!!!

 D. Prophet’s instruction is as per quran

I hope now it is clear that which category of people were there for whom Prophet advised Muslims to not to say Salaam. Of course they were those people who fall under < No Salam category >

Prophet prohibited Muslims from saying Salam to those non Muslims who fell under the category mentioned by Quran in Surah Tauba 9:113-114

The prohibition of saying Salam to non Muslims will apply to ONLY this category of people about whom one is sure that he is going to be in hell.

6. Conclusion

  1. Saying Salaam means “AsSalaam -o-alaikum” i.e. May peace of Almighty God be upon you.
  2. Some Muslims have misconception that Islam does not allow saying Salaam to all non Muslims.
  3. Almighty God instructs us that one can NOT say Salaam or do dua of forgiveness for those mushriks (mushrik means one who associate partner with Almighty God) about whom you are dead sure that they are going to be in hell because of their constant rejection of truth. Under this category those people will come who have been very open and continuous rejecter of truth.
  4. To rest of non Muslims one can say Salaam or reply walaikum asSalaam .

 * If you don’t agree with the mail then instead of giving fatwa of deviation / kufr / shirk / biddat – have faith in Allah and leave it to him to judge.

 * Author: Khurshid Imam is software engineer at Bangalore. For any criticism / feedback / suggestion feel free to mail – serviceforhumanity@gmail.com

The article can be found at: http://khurshidimam.blogspot.com/2011/12/can-muslim-say-salam-to-non-muslim.html

What is the name of Allah?

Khurshid Imam

 

A. Introduction

It is very common among muslims to hear – “Allah is the personal name of God and Allah has 99 attributive names”.

However, this statement opens door for several questions.

There is a personal name of almighty God?

He has only 99 attributive names? And all in arabic only?

What about other language names for God?

Is Allah “arabic” God?

Is God of muslims is specific to arabian peninsula or arabic language at least?

What about Krishna, yahowa, ishwar etc? Are they not the name of God?

B. Can Almighty God have a personal name?

It is said that Allah is the personal name (zaati naam) of almighty God. There are 99 attributive name (sifati naam) of Allah. Please ponder over the term personal name.

Who named mobile phone as mobile phone?

Who named mount Everest as mount Everest?

Who named Albert Einstein as Albert Einstein?

Who named Lamborghini car as Lamborghini?

The answer to all above questions is – the producer, the discoverer or the one who owned it named it so. To name something i.e. to give a personal name there MUST be an entity over and above that thing. Then only that particular thing can be named. My son is called as Ammar imam because i have named him so. There must be someone before ammar imam who will name him so.

Now when one say that personal name of Almighty God is Allah – then a very logical and natural Question arises: Who was there before Allah who named him so? Who decided that Allah should be the personal name of Allah? And that also why only an arabic name? Is Almighty God specific to Arabic language? Billion dollar question is – can God have a personal name?

Answer is:

1. There is no personal name of almighty God. All names of God are attributive names.

2. The one who is the master, creator, sustainer, ..(You can add all possible attributes of almighty God) is the one who alone is worthy to be worshipped. He is the one almighty God.

3. One who is worthy to be worshipped is called Allah in arabic language. Arabic word Allah is made up of two words – Al (The) + Ilah (Worthy to be worshipped).

4. Did not pre-islamic pagans of arabs used to address their supreme God as Allah?

5. Allah or Almighty God existed when there was no language viz: Sanskrit, Arabic, Hebrew.

Note: I am aware of some people’s opinion that Allah is not made up of Al+ilah rather its one personal name of God. I respect their view but find it wrong because it is based on the wrong assumption that Almighty God has personal name Allah.

C. The myth of personal name of Allah

“Say: “Invoke Allah or invoke the Most Gracious (Al Rahmaan), by whatever name you invoke Him (it is the same), for to Him belong the most beautiful Names (Asma ul husna)”- Quran, Surah Isra 17:110

1. The Ayah says that whether you call Allah or Al-Rahman; you can call him by any name as long as it is the most beautiful name.

2. Message of Allah has come into different regions of the world and in different language. It is obvious that Almighty God would have addressed himself in those revelations in that language and not in Arabic. The message of Allah in Persian language would have mentioned Almighty God in Persian language. Similarly the revelation of Allah in Sanskrit language would had terms in Sanskrit language that would denote Almighty God.

3. There is very close resemblance in the root word for “worthy to be worshipped” / “Allah” in languages like Arabic, Hebrew etc. Not going into details of these.

4. Previous ummah upholding the message of God would have addressed almighty God in their language. Since Quran is in arabic hence we have the arabic word Allah.

5. The above ayah makes clear that God can be called by any name that is most beautiful and befits the God. In fact – all good qualities in its extreme form refers to Almighty God only. There is no limit to the number of attributive names of God. His all names are depending upon a quality.

6. Hence in dawah one can refer to Almighty God as Ishwar, mahaprabhu, Sarwshaktimaan, ajanma etc.

D. Hadees regrading 99 names of Allah

1. There are few ahadees that speaks about 99 names of Allah. for example:

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah has ninety-nine Names, i.e., one hundred minus one, and whoever believes in their meanings and acts accordingly, will enter Paradise; and Allah is Witr (one) and loves ‘the Witr’ (i.e., odd numbers). (Sahih Bukhari, Book #75, Hadith #419). Also Sahih Bukhari, Book #50, Hadith #894

2. However there is a hadees in trimdhi that speaks about certain 99 names of Allah. The hadees of trimdhi that speaks about certain 99 names and put the list of 99 names has been deemed week by the scholars. The list of 99 names was inserted by the narrator Al Walid Ibn Muslim. This hadees has been judged weak by many hadith scholars such as al-Tirmidhi himself, al-Nawawi, ibn Hajar, ibn Taymiyyah, ibn al-Qayyim, ibn Kathir, al-San’ani and others.

Without going into detail i would like to just point out that:

1. As evident with many ahadees, one need not to take every word of hadees literally. 99 names does not indicate that only 99 names. For example- Sahih Bukhari, Book #50, Hadith #894 says that Allah has 99 names and whoever knows them will go to Paradise. One should not conclude that just by knowing 99 names of Allah one will get jannah. Taking it literary will create havoc. Lot of mushrik can just memorize these 99 names and claim that they are entitled for jannah because they know these names as per this hadees. Similarly 99 does not mean only 99, rather it signifies lot of names.

2. Scholars like Ibn Taimiyah, Ibnul Qayyim have made clear that hadees saying Allah has 99 names; does not mean only 99. Imam Nawawi states:”The scholars agree that this hadith did not limit the Names of Allah and this is not what it is supposed to mean, that Allah do not have Names other than these 99 Names.What is meant in this hadith is that, anyone who managed to encompass ( memorize and understand ) these Names will enter paradise. So it was intended to inform us on the condition for the entry of paradise, and not limit the Names of Allah.”

3. There are so many names of Allah in the Quran that are not mentioned in ahadees.For example:

Dhul Fadhl: (Mentioned in Quran, Surah Baqrah 2:105)

Dhul Arsh: (Mentioned in Quran, Surah 85:15)

Dhil Ma’aarij: (Mentioned in Quran, Surah Marij 70:3)

Dhul Jalali wal Ikram: (Mentioned in Quran, Surah rahmaan 55:27, 78)

Dhul Tawl: (Mentioned in Quran, Surah momin 40:3)

Ar Rabb: (Mentioned in Quran, Surah Fatiha 1:1)

Researchers have found far more than 99 attributes of Allah from Quran. There is no restriction of language or number of names of Almighty God.

E. Claim of ISKCON : Krishna – name of God?

Those of you who are into interfaith interaction, would have encountered situation when an ISKCON / hare krishna group person would have said that krishna is also name of Allah. ISKCON / hare krishna is a sect of Hinduism and believes Krishna to be supreme God. They tell to muslims that Krishna and Allah are same and Krishna is one of the name of Allah. One need to remember following things:

1. Krishna refers to the person who was part of Mahabharat – an epic. The epic has no correlation with reality. Only with the passage of time people started believing this mythological story as real story.

2. Apart from that, as per the story; Krishna was a man, who was born, who died. He can never ever remotely be called God.

3. Last but not least – As Quran says in 17:110 that all beautiful names belong to Almighty God. krishna means “black”. Black is usually symbol of negative / devil / ignorance and hence can never ever apply to Almighty God.

F. Conclusion

1. It is a misconception that the almighty GOD has a personal name. He can never have a personal name.

2. All names of Allah are attributive name including the name Allah.

3. God can be referred in any language. There is no restriction of language. God is beyond the boundaries of language.

4. Its wrong to say that God has only 99 names. In fact there is no limit to names of God.

5. To God belongs most beautiful names.

Note: * If you don’t agree with the mail then instead of giving fatwa of deviation / kufr / shirk / biddat – have faith in Allah and leave it to him to judge.

* Author: Khurshid Imam is software engineer at Bangalore, India. For any criticism / feedback / suggestion feel free to mail – serviceforhumanity@gmail.com

The article can be found at http://khurshidimam.blogspot.in/2012/04/what-is-name-of-allah.html

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The Haraam (forbidden) concept of halala
 
by Khurshid Imam
 
 
A. Introduction
 
Ask a mufti or maulana on an islamic scholar – “Can i marry a lady for one or two night?”
—- “What do you mean?”
 
“I mean i want to marry a lady for one or two night and after that i will divorce her. Is it ok? Is it permissible in islam?”
— — “No. No. its absolutely prohibited in islam. Its haraam. Its nothing less than zina i.e. illegal physical relation.”
 
Though any person with the sane mind and little bit of knowledge of islam will agree that marrying someone for one or two night or for fixed time is prohibited in islam yet there exists a similar unislamic practice called halala. Thanks to blind and unconditional following of their-set-of-scholars. Thanks to utter most ignorance about islam.
 
 
B. What is Halala?
 
Note: The correct way of divorce or talaq in islam is hardly practiced by people. Almighty God has clearly guided us regarding the procedure of talaq yet muslims as a whole mock at ruling of Allah and adopt other method of talaq contrary to the one described by Almighty God. If a couple really try to follow the proper way of talaq then very very few talaq will happen between a husband and wife. This is different topic and inshallah i will write over it in future. Wait for the article:Nikah and Talaq : As described by Almighty God
 
One must keep in mind that the correct procedure of talaq is such that a couple is highly encouraged to reconcile. It is actually very difficult and requires high degree of conviction for divorce; that a couple will get separated.
However, if a couple agrees for divorce and complete all formalities for divorce then they are to be separated. Let’s assume husband was Mr. H and wife was Ms. W. Now, after divorce they are to be separated. Here both H and W are free to marry any person. However they both can not get married to each other. They both can get married if (here comes two different ways 1- islamic way 2 – Un-islamic way called halala) :
 
1. Islamic way –
a. The wife W marries to someone else – say Mr. E. They marry as per islamic way.
b. They have not decided or put condition that their marriage will be only for one night or any fixed number of time.
c. Then if within their married life at any point of time due to any unavoidable reason they decide for divorce and go for separation and they complete all formalities of talaq or divorce as per Quran.
d. Then this lady W can marry her first husband W.
e. The important point is that W can not marry to E with the intention of divorce.
 
2. Unislamic way called halala
All above steps except that W or E or both have decided in advance that they will go for divorce so as to facilitate marriage of W with H. 
Its utter non-sense and against common sense that a marriage happens for a fixed time. This is because of ignorance and blind following of people. This halala has become business in some part of india-pakistan. There are halala expert men whose job is to marry a lady, divorce her after 1 night so that she can marry her first husband. 
 
 
C. Important point:
Marriage is a very important and sacred bond. Due to not following God’s way of life we know the horrific result of western world where more children and getting borne out of  (without their parents being married) wedlock.  
 
A. Just over 40% of births were outside of marriage in 2002 
 
B. Nearly half of all children born out of wedlock, official figures show (22 Oct 2010)
 
Since islam is a complete way of life (and not only theoretical gossip) hence islam prescribes best ways to deals with issues and day-today problems. One should not take marriage as game of doll. Its holiness need to be maintained. So Islam has prescribed the tough condition for re-marriage with the former husband IF talaq was complete in all aspects.
A Nikah in Islam is an Ibadat and is a contract of permanent nature till it is impossible for them to adjust later on for reasons unforeseen at the time of marriage. Describing the nature of permanency in a contract of Nikah, the Qur’an says: “They (the wives) have taken from you a solemn covenant.” (Quran, Surah Nisa 4:21)
 
 
D. Conclusion
1.      The Quranic way of talaq is hardly practiced by Muslims. The real method of talaq leaves no stone unturned in reconciliation between couple.
2.      After complete talaq husband and wife can marry only if wife marries a person without the intention of seeking divorce. If later in her married life, due to unavoidable reason she gets divorced, then only she can marry her former husband. This is Islamic way.
3.      The haraam concept of halal makes a wife marry a person for one night or a few days with the intention of divorce so that she can marry her former husband.
4.      Ignorance, distance from Quran is the main reason fro halala.
5.      For details on Nikah and Talaq kindly wait for the article: Wait for the article: Nikah and Talaq : As described by Almighty God
 
 
Note: * If you don’t agree with the mail then instead of giving fatwa of deviation / kufr / shirk / biddat – have faith in Allah and leave it to him to judge.
 
* Author: Khurshid Imam is software engineer at Bangalore, India. For any criticism / feedback / suggestion feel free to mail – serviceforhumanity@gmail.com
 
The article can be found at:  http://khurshidimam.blogspot.in/2012/04/haraam-concept-of-halala.html  and same has been attached in the mail.
 

Haraam-Halaal contradiction and islam

Khurshid Imam

A. Introduction

………….       This is haraam in islam.

………………..         That is not permissible in islam.

………………………………            This is not allowed in islam.

……………………………………………………….            That is against Quran and sunnah.

We hear these statements umpteen number of times. Muslims Scholars come up with frequent fatwas on a number of issues. Just have a glimpse on some of issues and the ruling of majority of muslim scholars on these issues AND the CHANGING trend:

B. Wearing collar Shirts, using english etc was deemed Haraam, Now….? – It was during British era that WE had declared that using things that looks like imitating Britishers – was haraam or prohibited. So wearing Shirt, using english etc was declared haraam. Ask your elders about it.

C. Drinking coffee was Haraam, Now…?  During the early days of coffee some of US have declared that drinking coffee was haraam.

D. Using mike for adhan was Haraam. Now…? It was till recently that WE deemed mike for adhaan etc to be haraam. 

 E. Wearing Tie was Haraam earlier. Now…?  Till recently wearing tie was considered taboo by US. WE considered wearing tie as imitating kuffaar.Even today some of US equate wearing tie equal to imitating kuffar and hence a forbidden act.

F. Photography / making photos was Haraam. Now…? If u would have asked till 1990s to a muslim scholar about the ruling on photography – most probably you would have got the answer that it is haraam. Muslim world had an unanimous understanding that photography is not allowed at all. Its absolutely haraam. Even today some of them SAY its haraam.  

G. TV / Videography was Haraam, Now…? Similar to the case of photography even videography was deemed prohibited or haraam by ulema till very recently. Islamic Scholars – probably from all school of thoughts – deemed it absolutely prohibited. Making video of human being was considered unislamic. A very generic understanding was in the air there that having TV at home is haraam.

Note: When i mention that we/some of us/muslims scholars have declared haraam then of course that does not means all muslim scholars.

H. Did islam change? New revelation came? Or understanding of muslims was wrong?

If you prevent a muslim from drinking coffee because u think it is haraam then you will be declared lunatic.

If you say wearing shirt, using english is prohibited in islam then you will be mocked.

Similarly if u start propagating that tie is haraam then most probably people will say that this fellow does not know about islam.

Photography and videography is very interesting. Some of the opinions of Scholars are:

. Some say photography or videography for non living things is allowed and for others haraam.One can find plant photography / videography being allowed. ( I say: are plants living things or Non living things?)

. Some say photography or videography for human beings is haraam, for others it is allowed.

. Many of scholars are now saying (at least practically) that photography / videography for good purpose is allowed – whether of human beings or non living things.

Just ponder over the fact that:

1. Our tableeghi jamaat brothers and other “pious” muslims were strictly against photography / videography EARLIER. They would not hesitate in burning old photos at home (assuming it was HARAAM to have photographs at home). Now?

Now they are not that much vocal against photography and videography. A large number of bayaan (talks) of Maulana Tariq jameel sahab (A prominent tableeghi jamaat member) and others is available on Internet in videos. Lot of photos of tableeghi brother is available on net. Many members have their profile picture in facebook as their picture. The voice that photography/videography is haraam has diminished.

2. Old journals of jamat-e-islami never had photographs of human beings. Why? They thought its HARAAM to have it. Now? No seminar/ program / meeting / gathering of jamat-e-islami is complete without more-than-sufficient photographs flashing around newspaper, journals and magazines, TV etc.

3. Our salafi brothers too had been very very vocal on this topic. For them – since things fall only under allowed or HARAAM – so it was not surprise that their scholars too considered it absolutely HARAAM. The impression given was that a person indulging in photography / videography will have to enter hell fire.

Now? Of all the available islamic websites on the Internet; islamic videos / lectures – that contains large amount of photos and videos of human beings – probably more than 50% belongs to salafis (My observation). Tons of videos of salafi scholars are available on youtube.

4. Similarly a unanimous voice from deoband was that photography/videography was haraam but now that voice seems to have disappeared or least not much discussed now.

5. We hear that so many people are coming to islam because of widespread use of islamic lectures / documentaries in the form of audio, video and print media. Muslims and Non muslims are understanding islam very easily through tonns of videos available on internet. If videography was haraam then muslims scholars – today –  must make it absolutely haraam to propagate islam though videos. In fact – all “students of islam and comparative religion” type “orators” make sure that their no programs go unrecorded and then distributed among masses in all good ways.

Several things that were deemed haraam or prohibited by ulemas some years back are considered permitted or encouraged today. Is it logical and valid? Somewhere something is wrong. If something was absolutely forbidden 20 years back then it should be wrong even today and even after 20 years.

This is the characteristics of unislamic society that they declare something as permissible though it was considered wrong earlier. For example: Drinking alcohol was considered bad thing decades back in medium family in india. Today its considered a norm. Similarly premarital affair was paap i.e. great sin in indian society sometimes back, today its encouraged. Unislamic society change their values and rulings because they are not bound by any laws viz: Quran or Prophet.

But how come muslims too made similar mistakes. My analysis is as follows:

1. Intention of ulemas had been noble and good – by and large.

2. Due to abandoning Quran as a whole – we failed to grasp the faham of Quran. Things that are haraam and prohibited are mentioned clearly by Allah. Now what about new inventions like TV, photography, videography etc? For these intellectual brainstorming is required in the light of Quran.

3. Unfortunately muslim world took any new invention from non-believers as unislamic. Advancement in science and technology was directly or indirectly discouraged giving the impression that islam is against exploring science.

4. Had we used our intellectual capacity to its best we would not have ended up in this situation.

5. The ONLY solution for above all problems is that people hold Quran very very strongly and understand that islam is deen-e-fitrat i.e. religion of nature. Understanding faham of deen-islam is an important aspect that is ignored by masses.

6. Quranic principles are forver and do not changes with time. Implementation of these principle may change with time.

In the language of software (java): Quranic principles are abstract class while its rulings/implementations are concrete class.

Note: Intentionally skipping the details of islamic rulings on photography / videography / TV.

I. Conclusion

1. Islam is religion of nature. It is as simple and as natural as 2+2=4.

2. Principles of islam are eternal and never changes with time. Implementation of an islamic principle may change from time to time.

3. Its ONLY Allah or Almighty GOD who can make a thing Haraam. One need to be extremely careful while declaring anything as haraam. Declaring something today as haraam and tomorrow halal makes us laughing stock.

4. Haraam always remain Haraam – never a Haraam can become Halaal. People have misconception that haraam can become halal in necessity. The ayah 5:3 does NOT say that haraam will become Halaal in necessity, rather it says that if you are forced in unbearable situation then for haraam thing you will not get gunah or sin. Please note this important difference. In unbearable situation when you can not refrain from haraam then if u do that; then you will not be sinned – it does NOT mean that haraam will become halal in unbearable situation. Due to not understanding this delicate and basic difference many wrong rulings have been deduced in fiqh.

5. For future generations it will be hard to believe that WE had declared photography and videography HARAAM. Just like its hard for present generation to believe that once upon a time coffee, english, shirt, tie was declared haraam

Note: * If you don’t agree with the mail then instead of giving fatwa of deviation / kufr / shirk / biddat – have faith in Allah and leave it to him to judge.

* Author: Khurshid Imam is software engineer at Bangalore, India. For any criticism / feedback / suggestion feel free to mail – serviceforhumanity@gmail.com

The article can be found at: http://khurshidimam.blogspot.in/2012/04/haraam-halaal-contradiction-and-islam.html

The article can be downloaded as pdf from: http://www.scribd.com/KHURSHIDIMAM

Meat eating and animal killing in Valmiki ramayan
 
By: Khurshid Imam
 
 
 
A. Introduction
 
Valmiki Ramayan happens to be the “Original Ramayan” in Indian tradition. This is the book that introduced people to the story of Shri Ram chandr ji. This great epic was written by Shri Valmiki ji. Owing to the popularity of this book; several versions of Ramayana were written afterwards. Several centuries later Ramcharitmanas written by Tulsidas came into existence. Now days it is Ramcharitmanas that is read widely. Valmiki Ramayan is not read as much, but thankfully it is accessible and available to people.
 
To know about some differences between Original Ramayana and the Ramayana that you know – click here.
 
Our Hindu brethren accuse muslims of meat eating and declare this act as inhumane and barbaric. This issue of “meat eating” has even become a political tool for some mischievous elements of society. However when we go through Sacred Books of Sanatan dharma or Hinduism then we find several references that not only permit or justify meat eating but also encourage in some case. When killing of animal for sacrifice or eating is done by revered personality or those who are worshipped then it poses a very big question mark over the issue of meat eating. In this article we will look at very few such references (7-8) wherein sacred personalities of Hinduism kill animal for sacrifice and for eating purpose.
 
Kindly note: I am not presenting research work on all references related to meat eating in Hindu Scriptures but only showing very few references from one book only!!
 
Another important point is that I would like to draw attention of dear readers of gross mistranslation done by some publishers. It is not difficult to understand that there are deliberate mistranslations done for some verses which speak about meat eating or animal killing. Why this literal fraud? Of course; to conceal truth from the common mass and let them not understand the reality of the issue.



For the ease of user we are presenting at least 2-3 different translations for each shlok (Verse).
 
 
B. Glorification of roasted meat for eating by Shri Ram chandr ji and others
 
1. Sanskrit text
तां तदा दर्शयित्वा तु मैथिली गिरिनिम्नगाम् ।निषसाद गिरिप्रस्थे सीतां मांसेन छन्दयन् ।।
इदं मध्यमिदं स्वादु निष्टप्तमिद मग्निना ।एवमास्ते  धर्मात्मा सीतया सह राघवः ।।
(वाल्मीकि रामायणअयोध्या काण्ड, 96, 1  2)
 
Hindi Translation
अर्थात इस प्रकार सीता जी को (नदी केदर्शन कराकर उस समय श्री रामचन्द्र जी उनके पास बैठ गए और तपस्वी जनों के उपभोग में आने योग्यमांस से उनका इस प्रकार लालन करने लगे, ‘‘इधर देखो प्रियेयह कितना मुलायम हैस्वादिष्ट है और इसको आग पर अच्छी तरह सेका गयाहै।‘‘
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Word by word Sanskrit to english translation:
मैथिलीम् princess of Mithila, तां सीताम् that Sita, तथा in that way, गिरिनिम्नगाम् mountain-river, दर्शयित्वा having shown, मांसेन with meat,छन्दयन् gratifying, गिरिप्रस्थे on the mountain-slope, निषसाद sat.
धर्मात्मा righteous,  राघवः that Rama, इदम् this, मेध्यम् sacred meatइदम् this, स्वादु is savoury, इदम् this one, अग्निना with fire,निष्टप्तम् roastedएवम् uttering this way, सीतया सह in the company of Sita, आस्ते was seated.
 
Having shown to Sita the mountain-river Mandakini and gratifying her with meat, Rama sat on the mountain slope. Righteous Rama was seated in Sita’s company and remarked saying “This meat is sacred. This is savoury roasted in fire“. (Valmiki Ramayan, Ayodha Kand 96:1-2)
 
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The intentional mistranslation by Geeta Press, Gorakhpur:
 
 
 
See the mistranslation done by Geeta press, Gorakhpur. Word “meat” is mistranslated as fruit and plants parts!!Though Original Sanskrit text is talking about meat that is meant for eating; meat that is roasted well on fire but in hindi translation readers are told that fruits and plant parts were meant for eating and cooked well on fire J
 
 
C. Shri Ram chandr ji and Shri Lakshman killing animals for meat
 
2. Sanskrit text
तौ तत्र हत्वा चतुरो महामृगान्      वराहमृश्यं पृषतं महारुरुम् 
आदाय मेध्यं त्वरितं बुभुक्षितौ      वासाय काले ययतुर्वनस्पतिम्
(Valmiki Ramayan, Ayodha Kand 52:102)
 
Word by word Sanskrit to english translation
बुभुक्षितौ being very hungry, तौ they, तत्र there, वराहम् a boarऋश्यम् a white footed male antelopeपृषतम् spotted deerमहागुरुम् a great deer with black stripesचतुरः four, मृगान् animals, हत्वा killedमेध्यम् pure meatत्वरितम् quickly, आदाय partaking as food,काले in the evening time, वासाय for rest, वनस्पतिम् under a tree, ययतुः reached.
 
Being famished, Rama, Lakshmana hunted and killed a boar, a Rishya animal (a white footed male antelope), a spotted deer and a great deer with black stripes and quickly partaking the pure meat reached a tree by the evening to spend the night. (Valmiki Ramayan, Ayodha Kand 52:102) 
 
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See the intentional gross mistranslation
 
In the below photo taken from the site http://nyktrivedi.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/valmiki-ramayan-sanskrit-hindi-vol-02-ayodhya-kaand-purvardh1.pdf  one can see how readers are made to understand things wrongly.

 

 
 
The Sanskrit word HATWA (हत्वा) = after KILLING. But it’s wrongly translated as “shikaar kheli” i.e. (they enjoyed hunting???)
Similarly word  Medhyam (मेध्यम्) = pure meat here. But it is wrongly translated as “kand mul, phal” i.e. Plants, fruits etc J
Can you see this open forgery?
 
The intentional mistranslation by Geeta Press, Gorakhpur:
 

 

 
Yet again we can see entirely different translation. Text says that Shri Ram chandr ji and Lakshman ji killed various animals and took meat from it but translation says that they merely threw at animals and took plant food for eating J Is not this literal scam? People are being fooled.
 
 
D. Shri Ram chandr ji and lakshman ji killing animals for sacrifice
 
3. Sanskrit text
ऐणेयं मांसमाहृत्य शालां यक्ष्यामहे वयम्।
कर्तव्यं वास्तुशमनं सौमित्रेचिरजीविभि:       Valmiki Ramayan, Ayodha Kand 56.22।।
 
Word by word Sanskrit to english translation
सौमित्रे! O Lakshmana, ऐणेयं मांसम् flesh of black antelopeआहृत्य having brought, वयम् we, शालाम् this leafy hut, यक्ष्यामहे will worship,चिरजीविभि: those who intend to live for long time, वास्तुशमनम् pacification by house-hold deity, कर्तव्यम् should to be done.
 
O Lakshmana! Those who intend to live for long should pacify the deity residing over here.Therefore, we shall bring the flesh of black antelope and offer sacrifice at the leaf hut. (Valmiki Ramayan, Ayodha Kand 56.22)
 
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The intentional mistranslation by Geeta Press, Gorakhpur:
 

 

The mistranslation is clear. Meat is again replaced with some plant part; Nothing more to say.
 
 
4. Sanskrit text
मृगं हत्वाऽऽनय क्षिप्रं लक्ष्मणेह शुभेक्षण!
कर्तव्य श्शास्त्रदृष्टो हि विधिर्धर्ममनुस्मर।       Valmiki Ramayan, Ayodha Kand 56.23।।
 
Word by word Sanskrit to english translation
शुभेक्षण one who has auspicious looking eyes, लक्ष्मण Lakshmana, मृगम् the antelopeहत्वा having killedक्षिप्रम् quickly, इह here, आनयbring, शास्त्रदृष्ट: as prescribed by the scriptures, विधि: rites, कर्तव्यः हि will have to be carried out, धर्मम् the tradition, अनुस्मर recollect.
 
O Lakshmana!, Kill an antelope and bring it here quickly. The rites as prescribed by the scriptures will have to be carried out. You know and recollect that tradition also.
 
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The intentional mistranslation by Geeta Press, Gorakhpur:
 

 

One can see the same trend here. Word “meat” being replaced as plant’s part. Word “After killing” omitted.
 
 
5. Sanskrit text
भ्रातुर्वचनमाज्ञाय लक्ष्मणपरवीरहा।
चकार  यथोक्तं  तं राम पुनरब्रवीत्।       Valmiki Ramayan, Ayodha Kand 56.24।।
 
Word by word Sanskrit to english translation
परवीरहा slayer of enemy heroes,  लक्ष्मण: that Lakshmana, भ्रातु: brother’ s, वचनम् words, आज्ञाय having understood, यथोक्तम् as told,चकार carried out, राम: Rama, तम् him, पुन: again, अब्रवीत् said.
 
Lakshmana who is slayer of enemy heroes having understood his brother’s words carried out accordingly. Again Rama said to him.
 
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6. Sanskrit text
ऐणेयं श्रपयस्वैतच्छालां यक्ष्यामहे वयम्।
त्वर सौम्यमुहूर्तोऽयं ध्रुवश्च दिवसोऽप्ययम्।       Valmiki Ramayan, Ayodha Kand 56.25।।
 
Word by word Sanskrit to english translation
सौम्य! O gentle Lakshmana, एतत् this, ऐणेयम् flesh of antelopeश्रपयस्व cookवयम् we, शालाम् hut, यक्ष्यामहे will offer sacrifice, अयम्this, दिवस: day, अयम् this, मुहूर्त:अपि auspicious moment also, ध्रुवश्च is firm, त्वर hasten up.
 
O gentle Lakshmana!, dress this meat. We will offer sacrifice to the presiding deity of this hut. This moment indicates stability. Hasten up.
 
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7. Sanskrit text
 लक्ष्मणकृष्णमृगं मेध्यं हत्वा प्रतापवान्।
अथ चिक्षेप सौमित्रिस्समिद्धे जातवेदसि।         Valmiki Ramayan, Ayodha Kand 56.26।।
 
Word by word Sanskrit to english translation
अथ then, सौमित्रि: son of Sumitra, प्रतापवान् valorous, लक्ष्मण: that Lakshmana, मेथ्यम् fit for sacrifice pure, कृष्णमृगम् black antelope,हत्वा having killedसमिद्धे in a well-kindled, जातवेदसि fire, चिक्षेप offered.
 
Then, Lakshmana, the valorous son of Sumitra, having killed a black antelope pure enough for a sacrifice, cast it in a well-kindled fire.
 
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The intentional mistranslation by Geeta Press, Gorakhpur:
 

 

Though Sanskrit text spoke about Lakshmana killing animal and getting sacred meat but hindi translation is done in such a way that reader will not have even glimpse of this fact!!!
 
 
8. Sanskrit text
तन्तु पक्वं परिज्ञाय निष्टप्तं छिन्नशोणितम्।
लक्ष्मणपुरुषव्याघ्रमथ राघवमब्रवीत्।             Valmiki Ramayan, Ayodha Kand 56.27।।
 
Word by word Sanskrit to english translation
लक्ष्मण: Lakshmana, निष्टप्तम् roasted wellछिन्नशोणितम् drained the blood, तम् that, पक्वम् cookedपरिज्ञाय having found, अथ then,पुरुषव्याघ्रम् tiger among men, राघवम् Rama, अब्रवीत् said.
 
Having observed that it is well-boiled, drained off the blood and cooked well, thus said Lakshmana to Rama, the best of men.
 
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The intentional mistranslation by Geeta Press, Gorakhpur:
 

 

Once again this publication – Geeta press, Gorakhpur – has made mockery of Sanskrit to hindi translation. Revered personality lakshaman follows order of his elder brother Shri Ram chandr and got the meat drained off blood; roasted it well and cooked it. But hindi translation is telling different story about some plant / vegetable.
 
 
9. Sanskrit text
अयं कृष्ण स्समाप्ताङ्ग श्शृतो कृष्णमृगो यथा 
देवतां देवसङ्काशयजस्व कुशलो ह्यसि।          Valmiki Ramayan, Ayodha Kand 56.28।।
 
Word by word Sanskrit to english translation
समस्ताङ्ग: with all the limbs, अयम् this, कृष्णमृग: black antelope, सर्व: completely, मया by me, श्रुत: is well-cooked, देवसङ्काश equal to devatas, देवता: devatas, यजस्व offer with sacrifice, कुशलअसि हि you are proficient.
 
This black antelope with all the limbs is completely and well-cooked. As such O! devine sir, you may offer sacrifice to Vastu devata. You are proficient in doing such acts.
 
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The intentional mistranslation by Geeta Press, Gorakhpur:
 
 
Same story of literal fraud is repeated here. Sanskrit text is openly abused and wrong translation is being presented to the innocent mass. People are made to believe that Non-veg food is against their culture while sacred books talk about “god” eating animal meat after killing them.
 
 
E. Shri Ram chandr ji killing animals and bring meat
 
10. Sanskrit text
समाश्वस मुहूर्तं तु शक्यं वस्तुमिह त्वया।        Valmiki Ramayan, Aranya Kand 47.22।।
आगमिष्यति मे भर्ता वन्यमादाय पुष्कलम्।
रुरून्गोधा न्वराहांश्च हत्वाऽदायाऽमिषान्बहून्।    Valmiki Ramayan, Aranya Kand 47.23।।
 
Word by word Sanskrit to english translation
मुहूर्तम् for a while, समाश्वस take rest, त्वया you, इह here, वस्तुम् staying, शक्यम् it is possible, मे भर्ता my husband, रुरून् deer, गोधाःalligators, वराहांश्च hogs, हत्वा after killing, बहून् many of them, आमिषान् varieties of meatआदाय after fetching, पुष्कलम् in plenty,वन्यम् from the forest, आदाय getting, आगमिष्यति will come.
 
Take rest for a while staying here. It is hoped that my husband will come and be getting from the forest plenty of meat of many kinds on killing deer, alligators and hogs.
 
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The intentional mistranslation by Geeta Press, Gorakhpur:
 

 

Geeta press, Gorakhpur – again misleads the common mass. The Sanskrit text is talking about Shri ram chandr ji bringing meat of animals after killing deer, alligators, hogs/pigs for purpose of eating; but the hindi translation speaks about “fruit” for eating J. Fooling the common mass!!!
 
 
F. Conclusion
 
<!–[if !supportLists]–>1.      <!–[endif]–>Majority of our Hindu brethren are made to believe that Non-veg food is against their culture and tradition. They are told that Hinduism is against killing of animals for food. However a careful study of  their sacred scripture gives entirely different picture.
 
<!–[if !supportLists]–>2.      <!–[endif]–>Valmiki Ramayan not only speaks about shri Ram chandr ji – who is worshipped by millions of Indians as ideal person – eating meat but gives the picture that he was very fond of it.
 
<!–[if !supportLists]–>3.      <!–[endif]–>Shri Ram chandr ji would kill animals, get meat to eat. He would order his brother Shri lakshmana ji to do the same. They would offer animals for sacrifice also.
 
<!–[if !supportLists]–>4.      <!–[endif]–>Unfortunately some Ramayana publications grossly mistranslate such sholkas of Valmiki Ramayan that speaks about meat eating and animal killing. They not only mislead common mass but also disrespect scripture by not giving its due.
 
<!–[if !supportLists]–>5.      <!–[endif]–>It’s heartening to note that some translators DO have translated such sholkas correctly and accepted meat eating and animal killing in Ramayana.
 
<!–[if !supportLists]–>6.      <!–[endif]–>When Ramayana speaks about permissibility of meat eating then one should not lead common mass into believing wrong thing.
 
<!–[if !supportLists]–>7.      <!–[endif]–>Intention is not at all to hurt any of our brethren but to draw attention towards the literary fraud done by some publications and wrong principles preached by some people.
 
<!–[if !supportLists]–>8.      <!–[endif]–>We have not speculated, assumed or guessed but presented correct translation of such references done by learned Hindu Scholars.
 
<!–[if !supportLists]–>9.      <!–[endif]–>Also its time for our Indian brethren to wake up and understand the tactics of some elements of our society who use meat eating as a political tool to divide people. Due to the sensitive nature of the topic some of our innocent’s brethren get carried away in emotion and don’t look at facts. Let’s not be divided and don’t let people polarize the society.
 
<!–[if !supportLists]–>10.  <!–[endif]–>Let us not allow anti-social elements to spread hatred, create division and polarize hearts of fellow countrymen in the name of meat and animals.
 
 
 
Note:  Lets look at another source which proves our point. Please find below translation of above mentioned verses from Scholars of Hindu scriptures available at other site: http://www.valmikiramayan.net
 
Reference 1.  Valmiki Ramayan, Ayodha Kand 96:1-2
 
तां तथा दर्शयित्वा तु मैथिलीं गिरिनिम्नगाम् |निषसाद गिरिप्रस्थे सीतां मांसेन चन्दयन् || ९६
 
tathaa = thus; darshayitvaa = having shown; girinimnagaam = the mountaneous river Mandakini; taam siitaam = to that Seetha; maithiliim = the daughter of the king of Mithila; niSasaada = sat; giriprashthe = on the hill side; chhandayan = in order to gratify her appetite; maamsena = with flesh.
 
Having shown Mandakini River in that manner to Seetha, the daughter of Mithila, Rama set on the hill-side in order to gratify her appetite with a piece of flesh.
 
इदं मेध्यमिदं स्वादु निष्टप्तमिदमग्निना |एवमास्ते  धर्मात्मा सीतया सह राघवः || ९६
 
2. saH raaghavaH = that Rama; dharmaatmaa = of righteousness; aaste = stayed; siitayaa sha = with Seetha; evam = thus speaking; idam = this meat; madhyam = is fresh; idam = this; niSTaptam = was roasted; agninaa = in the fire.
 
Rama, whose mind was devoted to righteousness stayed there with Seetha, saying; “This meat is fresh, this is savoury and roasted in the fire.”
 
 
Reference 2.  Valmiki Ramayan, Ayodha Kand 52:102
 
तौ तत्र हत्वा चतुरः महा मृगान् |वराहम् ऋश्यम् पृषतम् महा रुरुम् |आदाय मेध्यम त्वरितम् बुभुक्षितौ|वासायकाले ययतुर् वनः पतिम् || ५२१०२
 
102. hatvaa = having killed; tatra = there; chaturaH = four; mR^igaan = deer (namely); varaaham = Varaaha;R^ishyam = Risya; pR^ishhatam = PR^isata; mahaaruru = (and) Mahaaruru; (the four principal species of deer); aadayaa = and taking; tvaritam = quickly; medhyam = the portions that were pure; tou = Rama and Lakshmana; bubhukshhitou = being hungry as they were; yayatuH = reached; vanaspatim = a tree; vaasayaa = to take rest; kaale = in the evening.
 
Having hunted there four deer, namely Varaaha, Rishya, Prisata; and Mahaaruru (the four principal species of deer) and taking quickly the portions that were pure, being hungry as they were, Rama and Lakshmana reached a tree to take rest in the evening.
 
 
 
Reference 3-9. Valmiki Ramayan, Ayodha Kand 56.22-28
 
ऐणेयम् मांसम् आहृत्य शालाम् यक्ष्यामहे वयम् |कर्त्व्यम् वास्तुशमनम् सौमित्रे चिरजीवभिः || ५६२२
 
22. saumitre = Oh; Lakshmana!; aahR^itya = being; aiNeyam maamsam = bring meat of the antelope; vayam = we;yakshyaamahe = shall worship; shaalaam = (this) leaf-hut; vaastushamanam = purifactory ceremony on entering the house;kartavyam = on entering the; chirajiivibhiH = by those who wish to live long.
 
“Oh, Lakshmana! Bring the meat of an antelope. We shall perform a purifactory ceremony while entering the house. Which is to be done by those who wish to live long.”
 
मृगम् हत्वाऽऽनय क्षिप्रम् लक्ष्मणेह शुभेक्षण
कर्तव्यः शास्त्रदृष्टो हि विधिर्दर्ममनुस्मर || ५६२३
 
23. shubhekshaNa = Oh; large-eyed; lakshmaNa = Lakshmana!; hatvaa = killing; mR^igam = the antelope; kshhipram = quickly; anaya = bring; iha = here; vidhiH = the prescribed rite; shaastra dR^iSTaH = according to scriptural point of view;kartavyaH hi = indeed is to be done; anusmara = keep in mind; dharmam = the sacred obligation.”
 
“Oh, large-eyed Lakshmana! Killing the antelope quickly, bring it here. The prescribed rite according to scriptural point of view indeed is to be performed. Keep in mind the sacred obligation.”
 
भ्रातुर्वचन माज्ञाय लक्ष्मणः परवीरहा |चकार  यथोक्तम्  तम् रामः पुनरब्रवीत् || ५६२४
 
24. saH lakshmaNaH = that Lakshmana; paraviirahaa = the slayer of enemies; aaJNaaya = understanding; bhraatruH = his brother’s; vachanam = words; chakaara = acted; yathoktamcha = as instructed; raamaH = Rama; abraviit = spoke; punaH = again; tam = to him (as follows).
 
Lakshmana the slayer of enemies, understanding his brother’s words, acted as instructed. Rama spoke again to Lakshmana as follows.
 
इणेयम् श्रपयस्वैतच्च्चालाम् यक्ष्यमहे वयम् |त्वरसौम्य मुहूर्तोऽयम् ध्रुवश्च दिवसोऽप्ययम् || ५६२५
 
25. saumya = Oh; great brother!; shrapayasva = boil; etat = this; aiNeyam = antelope’s meat; vayam = we; yakshyaamahe = shall worship; shaalaam = the leaf-hut; ayam = this; divasaH = day; ayam = (and) this; muhuurtaH api = instant also; dhruvaH= are of a distinctive character; tvara = be quick.
 
“Oh, gentle brother! Boil this antelope’s meat. We shall worship the leaf-hut. This day and this instant also are of a distinctive character. Be quick.”
 
 लक्ष्मणः कृष्ण मृगम् हत्वा मेध्यम् पतापवान् |अथ चिक्षेप सौमित्रिः समिद्धे जात वेदसि || ५६२६
 
atha = then; saH lakshmaNaH = that Lakshmana; prataapavaan = the strong man; saumitriH = and son of Sumitra; hatvaa = killing; medhyam = the holy; kR^iSNa mR^igam = black antelope; chikSepa = tossed; jaata vedasi = in a fire; samiddhe = ignited.
 
Then, Lakshmana the strong man and son of Sumitra, killing a holy back antelope, tossed it in an ignited fire.
 
तम् तु पक्वम् समाज्ञाय निष्टप्तम् चिन्न शोणितम् |लक्ष्मणः पुरुष व्याघ्रम् अथ राघवम् अब्रवीत् || ५६२७
 
27. parijJNaaya = feeling certain; pakvam = it is cooked; niSTaptam = and heated thoroughly; chinna shoNitam = with no blood remaining; lakshmaNaH = Lakshmana; atha = thereafter; abraviit = spoke; raaghavam = to Rama; puruSa vyaaghram= the lion among men (as follows).
 
Feeling certain that it is cooked and heated thoroughly with no blood remaining, Lakshmana spoke to Rama the lion among man as follows:
 
अयम् कृष्णः समाप्त अन्गः शृतः कृष्ण मृगो यथा |देवता देव सम्काश यजस्व कुशलो हि असि || ५६२८
 
28. ayam = this; kR^iSNaH mR^igo = black antelope; samaapta angaH = with its complete limbs; shR^itaH = has been cooked; sarvaH = completely; mayaa = by me; deva damkaasha = Oh Rama; remsembling god!; yajasva = worship;devataaH = the deities; asi ahi = you are indeed; kushalaH = skilled (in such act)
 
“This black antelope, with its complete limbs, has been cooked completely by me. Oh, Rama resembling God! Worship the concerned deity, as you are skilled in that act.”
 
 
 
Reference 10.  Valmiki Ramayan, Aranya Kand 47.22-23
 
समाश्वस मुहूर्तम् तु शक्यम् वस्तुम् इह त्वया || ४७२२
आगमिष्यति मे भर्ता वन्यम् आदाय पुष्कलम् |रुरून् गोधान् वराहान्  हत्वा आदाय अमिषान् बहु || ४७२३
 
22b, 23. muhuurtam samaashvasa = for a moment, be comfortable; tvayaa iha vastum shakyam = by you, here, to take rest, possible; me bhartaa = my, husband; ruruun = stag with black stripes; godhaan = mongooses like [civet-like mammals of the family Viverridae, esp. of the genus Herpestes, Marathi manguus]; varaahaan ca = wild-boars, also; hatvaa= on killing; bahu amiSaan aadaaya = aplenty, meat, on taking; puSkalam vanyam aadaaya = plentiful, forest produce, on taking; aagamiSyati = will be coming [soon.]
 
“Be comfortable for a moment, here it is possible for you to make a sojourn, and soon my husband will be coming on taking plentiful forest produce, and on killing stags, mongooses, wild boars he fetches meat, aplenty. [3-47-22b, 23]
 
 
 
A. IntroductionA quick glance of Shia murder in pakistan alone.

1. 6-01-1963 – 118 Shia Muslims including many children were killed on Ashura Day in Therih, Khair Pur

2. 17-May-1988 – 800 Shias killed by attack form Kohistan, Chilas, Darel, Tangir, assisted by military govt

3. 10-Sep-1996 FATA ; Parachinar – 200 shia killed

4. 1-10- Aug-1997 – Punjab, Lahore- 100 Shia killed

5. 11-Jan-1988 – punjab, Lahore – 25 Shia Muslims including children were killed and many injured when Sipah e Sahaba terrorists opened fire at a funeral gathering at a graveyard in Momin Pura, Lahore

6. 4 July 2003 – balochistan, Quetta –  killing of 53 worshippers at the main Shia Friday Mosque in Quetta.

7. 10 April 2007 – Attack on Shia mosque and villages in Parchinar 60 killed

8. 16-23 Nov 2007 – FATA, Parachinar 183 Shia killed

9. 17 jan 2008 – A suicide bomber killed 10 and wounded 25 in an attack on a Shia mosque in Peshawar.

10. 1 sep 2008 FATA 100 Shia killed

11. 5 feb 2009 – Bomb attack on a Shia procession 35 killed

12. 20 oct 2009 -Khyber Pakhtunkhwa – Shia funeral attacked 40 Shia killed

13. 5 april 2009 suicide attack on imambargah – 30 shia killed

14. 28 dec 2009- Sindh – 40 people killed in a suicide bombing on a Shia procession in Karachi

15. 1 sep 2010 – 43 Shias were killed and 230 people  injured in a blast during a procession in Lahore

16. 4 sep 2010 – 73 people killed in a suicide bombing at a Shia Al-Quds rally in Quetta

17. 28 feb 2010 – Gilgit, Massacre – bus , identity card checked for sect, 19 Shia killed

18. 3 april 2010 – Gilgit – Over 200 Shia Muslims taken out of buses and killed, 6 buses burnt, two dozens kidnapped.

Are we addressing the REAL reason?

This string of attack against Shia is going in pakistan unabated. Somewhat similar is the story of murder of qadiyanis in pakistan. A complete failed state – pakistan; is completely unable to protect its own citizen. Every time one hear about innocent being killed – an honest person condemns. One disagree with these kind of brutal attack and demand strongest punishment for perpetrators of such dastardly act.. every time we condemn attack.. we condemn… what we condemn? Attack? But what happens afterwards? Again attack on Shia / qadiyani. Such attacks will not reduce or fizzle out unless we condemn and work for elimination of “root reason”. We – every time – fail to address the root reason behind such attacks. Please Note: i am talking about attacks that is because of “he / she is Shia” / “he / she is a qadiyani”. We are not talking about robbery, murder for gain or for personal reason – we are talking about attack that is because of “islamic” reason. We are talking about attack that originates due to hate for shia.

Think about this sequence:
A Salafi / Sunni is taught by his set of “scholars” that Shia are deviated.
He consider Shia to have gone astray.
He is taught that Shia abuse Sahaba, they have different Quran, they consider hazrat Ali superior to Prophet Muhammad, Shia are betrayer….. his blood is made to boil.
He starts hating Shia, his hatred for Shia grows with each sermon / lecture on topic related to Shia.
Some scholars go to another extreme and start preaching that Shia are apostate or murtad (means they are out of islam).
………
……..
… so anger against Shia is growing. A Salafi / Sunni starts considering hatred for Shia part of his deen.
— he is getting angry. Every kind of catalyst is provided to him to despise Shia. What is required is a mere push / emotional push.

His “Scholars” give final touch by declaring Shia to be muratd / kafir / wajib-ul-qatl.. i.e. you “can” kill Shia, … gradually things turn out that — in fact one “should” kill Shia because they abuse Sahaba, they are kafir…
…and..they should be killed… that days is ashura… kill them when they will be celebrating a “biddah”… kill..
…………..
…………. Then……
……
10-Jan-2013: BREAKING NEWS — A Bomb blast on Thursday 10th January 2013 occurred at a snooker club which was close to a police station and a Shia Mosque. “First suicidal attack was conducted and then a car bomb exploded on Alamdar Road,” Said Mir Zubair Mehmood, the Capital City Police Officer.The bomb exploded 8:50p.m local time. As police, rescuers and media personal rushed to the blast site, another bomb fixed to a vehicle parked nearby the site went off, causing an even greater number of causalities. Over 140 were killed and 121 wounded in the second twin bomb attack. Lashkae-e-jhangvi, a extremist terrorist group banned by the government has claimed responsibility for all the blasts.

More than 400 Shiites were killed in targeted attacks in Pakistan in 2012
Think about people killed. What if they were your brother? Your own sister? Your own father? What if these kids were your own kids?? Making suicide bombers for killing innocent human being in the name of islam??
Attacking people in masjid?? When they were remembering Allah you murdered them??
Shameless act!! Astaghfirullah. Killing people in the name of islam?? What has happened to muslim scholars?

Providing catalyst for murder of Shia

Though there are tons of material of hatred and despise available, i am quoting only three here. Many Sunni / Salafi knows why he “should” hate shia.

1. Wikipedia says:  “In recent decades the late leading Saudi cleric, Abd al-Aziz ibn Abd Allah ibn Baaz, issued fatwa denouncing Shia as apostates, and according to Shia scholar Vali Nasr “Abdul-Rahman al-Jibrin, a member of the Higher Council of Ulama, even sanctioned the killing of Shias,[145] a call that was reiterated by Wahhabi religious literature as late as 2002.”[147]”

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi’a%E2%80%93Sunni_relations

2. While answering about Shia, a leading Salafi website says:

“Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: As for the one who goes further and claims that they apostatized after the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) died, apart from a small number, no more than ten or so, or that they (referring to Shia) became evildoers, there is no doubt that he is a kaafir, because he is rejecting what it says in the Qur’aan in more than one place, that Allaah was pleased with them and praised them. Indeed, the one who doubts that such a person is a kaafir is to be labelled as a kaafir himself, because what this view implies is that those who transmitted the Qur’aan and Sunnah were kuffaar or rebellious evildoers. …… End quote from al-Saarim al-Maslool ‘ala Shaatim al-Rasool (p. 590).

This does not mean that every sect that calls itself Muslim is actually Muslim, rather they may be kaafirs and apostates, such as the extreme Raafidis (referring to Shia), the extreme Sufis and the baatini sects such as the Druze, Nusayris and others. These are all beyond the pale of Islam and are not regarded as being among the sects mentioned in the hadeeth.”

Source: http://islamqa.info/en/ref/101272

3. A pseudo jihadi Salafi-website – taking “knowledge” from “Scholars of knowledge” (Such as above) says:

“..Furthermore, the Raafidah Shi’a are indeed Murtadeen (Murtad means one who has abandoned religion) (as we will come to see) so treating them like Muslims is out of the question as well as Jizya. Therefore, there is no practical solution with the Raafidah Shi’a except force since they are not even a sect within Islam; they are Murtadeen and the hudood must be implemented on them unless if they accept the true Islam. The same goes for the Ahmadiyya group who thinks they are a part of Islam.
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So we say: It should be clear to everyone here that the Shi’a Raafidah are Murtadeen and are not in the folds of Islam. We must avoid them and their gatherings and let others know of their disbelief so that they are not inclined towards them in any way. This is only done for the protection of Tawheed and its purity. Furthermore, others must know of them and their evil beliefs so that they can be confronted whenever they are around the people of Sunnah. All of this should tell us that we cannot unite with the Shi’a Raafidah on any bases and should refrain from making such ignorant statements.”

http://theunjustmedia.com/Islamic%20Perspectives/Shia%20are%20kafirs%20here%20is%20the%20proof.htm

Eliminate this “islamic” terrorism

1. One can find such numerous fatwas / opinion coming from the mouth of bloodthirsty / firebrand “s-c-h-o-l-a-r” and its “followers of Quran and Sunnah”. Let me assure you all – don’t get scared after reading above 3 points, don’t hate islam after reading above 3 points because they are diametrically opposite to teachings of islam; they are completely against the spirit of islam; they are completely against the teachings of Prophet Muhammad.
Above fatwas / wordings has nothing to do with Quran.

2. Please note here we are not discussing the exact status of Shia belief, Qadinai belief, Salafi belief. We are not discussing whose accusation is correct. We are – on the first level – discussing that even if each and every accusation against Shia is correct then do they have right to kill Shia?
Can a muslim kill someone because he does not agree with the belief of opponent?
Has Allah given right to anyone to kill people because of belief?
Instead of correcting others (whom you feel have gone astray) why you are indulging in spreading hatred, despise and arising emotions??

3. All such nonsense fatwas are  because of completely abandoning Quran. In fact Shia-Sunni-Salafi itself is result of abandoning Quran. For details listen to this with open mind both parts ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ7AMW1ei_I

4. Allah has not FORCED people to believe in something. Allah has made people free to believe in whatever they want. Allah has shown the way. Why you are interfering? Your job was to convey.

There is no compulsion in religion[Quran, Surah Baqrah 2:256]

Say, ‘The truth is from your Lord’: Let him who wills believe it, and let him who wills, reject (it).” [Quran, Surah Kahaf 18:29]

If it had been your Lord’s will, they all would have believed – all who are on earth. Will you, then, compel the people, against their will, to believe?” [Quran, Surah Yunus 10:99]

Please note this last ayah specially. Its not part of Allah plan that people should be forced to believe in something. How dare you kill people because of their faith and belief???

2. If you believe in day of judgment then why don’t you leave it to Allah to judge who was kafir, murtad? If you think that by calling yourself Shia / Sunni / Salafi you have certificate of jannah and rest all will go to hell then you can continue living in fool’s paradise. If you get some, try to read Quran. You abandoned Quran, Allah abandoned you and made you divide into sects.

Who is kafir as per GOD? read here: http://khurshidimam.blogspot.in/2011/09/who-is-kafir-clear-misconception_24.html

You are sending people to hell on petty issues; see the universal message of Quran which you would not be able to digest you sectarian muslims.

Those who believe (in the Qur’an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.” Quran 5: 69

Now some ill-informed people will say that this ayah is abrogated – leveling another charge against GOD.
For deatils about abrogation in Quran- read this: http://khurshidimam.blogspot.in/2012/05/how-many-ayah-of-quran-are-abrogated.html

3. If you feel that certain teachings of Shia or Sunni or Salafi is incorrect and wrong then all you can do is tell them things which you deem correct… but not with sword and knife but with wisdom, love and beautiful preaching. That is what is taught by Almighty God.

Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance.” Quran 16:125

a. You don’t agree, don’t fight; rather educate; have dialogue, have discussion. Is it necessary to hate; to despise; to kill? If your scholars have taught you to hate then they are presenting evil picture of islam. Islam is pure and clean from such blame.

b. Is not it surprising that prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) is mentioned as Rahmatul-alemeen i.e. mercy for all worlds .. yet followers of so-called Quran and “SUNNAH” are proving to be zalim, brutal, intolerant and inhumane?

c. Is not it surprising that though people made several accusation against Prophet; terming his sorcerer (Quran 10:2); poet; majnu… yet prophet Never ordered to KILL them??

d. IS not it surprising that in whole Quran Almighty God has addressed “real kafir” as KAFIR ONLY one time… i repeat – in whole Quran Almighty God has addressed “real kafir” as KAFIR ONLY one time… i.e in Surah kaferoon (Qul Ya ayyohal kaferoon);  rest all places God has referred them as HUMAN BEING (Ya ayyohannaas)… but follower of “Quran and Sunnah” has made it part of their faith to declare people kafir, send them to hell and kill them.

e. Is not it surprising that there are terrorist groups in pak whose very purpose is to kill Shia? And please mind it – these terrorist groups are leaded by scholars with “long beard” who are scholars of Quran and Sunnah?? Something is horribly wrong going the way muslim world is understanding islam.

f. Killing people because of their faith??? Not permitted in islam at least. God permits killing only in case wherein either one has murdered someone OR he is the cause of fasad on earth (refer to Quran 5:32). Fasaad means disturbing the balance of peace on earth. Its a broad term.

g. The Quran – whose 113 out of 114 chapter / surah starts with the introduction of Almighty GOD as “‘In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful” — the pathetic condition of some muslims is that – because of influence of some lunatic and fanatic scholars they are giving the opposite picture of God. Are those muslims anywhere closer to being merciful and compassionate due to their hatred and killings?

Conclusion

1. Murder of anyone – from any faith / cast / creed — if he is innocent — is against islam, against Quran. If any scholar / muslim preaches contrary to it then mind it he is wrong; no matter how long his beard is.

2. You have difference of opinion – discuss, have dialogue. That is the only way. This discussion need to be done under guidance of Quran.

3. You are bearing fruits of abandoning Quran that you are divided into sects. Hold firmly Quran and inshallah all sects will disappear – viz: Shia, Sunni, Salafi.

4. Respect, be tolerant, and learn to live with difference. Murder of one innocent is murder of whole humanity.

Note: * If you don’t agree with the mail then instead of giving fatwa of deviation / kufr / shirk / biddat – have faith in Allah and leave it to him to judge.

* Author: Khurshid Imam is software engineer at Bangalore, India. For any criticism / feedback / suggestion feel free to mail – serviceforhumanity@gmail.com

The article can be found at: http://khurshidimam.blogspot.in/2013/01/condemn-and-eliminate-real-reason.html

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Khurshid Imam
 
 
A. Introduction
 
Muslim: “You know Quran is word by word God’s word. Quran provides way of life.  Its language is so eloquent, its word so perfect that it does not resemble human work. Each word, each ayah is beautiful, choice of word is so perfect that …….”
Not yet Muslim: “Oh! Is it? I would love to read this book and understand it. Please give me Quran”
 
Muslim: “Sure brother! Take it. But… you know there are many Ayah in Quran that are not relevant now. Their orders / commandments are cancelled. You can read those ayah but can not practice it. I don’t identify those ayah. Some scholars told hundreds of such ayah exists in Quran while some have pointed out only 5. So I can’t point out who is correct.”
Not yet Muslim: “I am confused. You told Quran is God’s word, it should be free from any weakness or defect. Is not God most-wise?”
 
Muslim: “Also there were some ayah in Quran EARLIER but they are lost now. They are not to be found in Quran any more. But we need to practice those lost ayah. Lost ayah will be practiced even by going against some Quranic ayah”
Not yet Muslim: “I am ultra confused!!!!”
 
Muslim: “Wait!! I have to tell some more aspects of Quran also ….”
Not yet Muslim: “God’s word is not source of confusion and imperfection. Bye bye, I m going.”
 
B. The myth of abrogation in Quran
 
If you ask about the concept of abrogation in Quran, then most probably you will get answer that:
1. Sometimes Allah enforces a legal edict that is relevant only to a particular situation.
2. Later, in His infinite wisdom, He cancels the order and enforces a new one in its place.
3. This action is known as “abrogation” (naskh), and the replaced order is then termed “abrogated”  (mansukh) while the new replacing order is called “abrogator” (nasikh).
4. It means the abrogated ayah of the quran was meant only till the abrogator ayah was revealed. Abrogated ayah can never ever be practiced.
Abrogation concept says – “Allah gave a ruling for a particular issue. But later on Allah changed the ruling through another Ayah. Hence the previous ruling is cancelled and irrelevant now.” Abrogation is translated from the Arabic word naskh which literally means “to erase; to compensate.” Its technical definition is “to repeal a legal order through legal argument”.
The concept of abrogation opens door for some serious questions as it is full of flaws. It goes against Quran and common sense. All arguments given in favor of abrogation are extremely bogus-can not go down well to any honest and logical person. In order to justify abrogation people come up with weak arguments which puts islam into dock and make us laughing stock. Anti-islamic writers exploit it to defame Quran and islam.
 
Why abrogation came into existence?
 
1. The root reason for the evolution of the concept of abrogation was inability to explain the “seemingly-contradiction” in the Quran. When we felt that a particular ayah of the Quran contradicts with other ayah of Quran and both can not be practiced then we declared one of the ayah to be abrogated. It means this ayah is not relevant today; its ruling / command / order was cancelled by Allah by another ayah.
 
2. This concept was accepted by the general body of scholars as a fundamental aspect of Islamic legislation, and there is therefore not a single book on Usul al-Fiqh (The basic legal theories of source methodology in Islam) which does not have a section on the issue. 
 
3. Let me give you one horrible example of abrogation concept:
While explaining the ayah – “There is no compulsion in religion…” (Quran, Surah Baqrah 2:256) – a famous salafi website says that this ayah is abrogated and hence invalid now.
Please read carefully what is told on this site about ayah 2:256
Other scholars said that this applied in the beginning, but was subsequently abrogated by Allaah’s command to fight and wage jihad. So whoever refuses to enter Islam should be fought when the Muslims are able to fight, until they either enter Islam or pay the jizyah if they are among the people who may pay jizyah. The kuffaar should be compelled to enter Islam if they are not people from whom the jizyah may be taken, because that will lead to their happiness and salvation in this world and in the Hereafter.
 
[I am very sorry to say that above quoted statements from the site is completely alien to islam; contradicting to the very basic of islam; it projects islam as a violent, illogical and inhumane religion. Tell me why non muslims
will not hate islam if one teaches such things? 
No wonder the general perception created by us is that all ayah revealed in mecca which speaks about peace, love and harmony were abrogated by ayah speaking about fighting with non-muslims revealed during medina life!!!!!
 
Oh Allah! Have mercy on the ummah and its learned people.]
 
A contemporary Scholar, Muhammad Al-Ghazali’s (Born 1917) says:
The allegation that 120 verses on the invitation to Islam were abrogated by the verse of the sword [Surah tauba 9:5], is in fact one of crassest stupidity and only serves to show that the great number of Muslims are in a stage of regression of either knowledge or intelligence in our time, and have become ignorant of the Qur’an. As a result of this ignorance therefore, they have forgotten how to call to the way of God, how to facilitate the call to Islam, and how to be proper examples, and how to present a good perspective. Perhaps this is the reason for the failure in the propagation of Islam, and the prolonged stagnation of the Islamic message being affected—for it has been assumed that the sword is that which fulfills the obligation of delivering the message. Such a concept is, by the agreement of all those who are rational and discerning, totally absurd.

Family members of abrogation

As if this shock is not enough we have some more from the “misunderstanding of Quran” list. Abrogation concept has its whole family ruling over minds of muslims for centuries.
Once the concept of abrogation was given sanction from the Qur’an and hadith, the jurists started categorizing the different types of abrogation. Three types of abrogation in Quran are explained as:

(1) Abrogation of the text and its ruling: It is said that there were some Ayah in the Quran earlier; they no more exists in Quran now; so their recitation and command – both are cancelled and abrogated. For example: We are told that earlier there were some ayah in Surah ahzab (Surah number 33) that were as long as Surah Baqrah (Surah number 2). But these ayah are not part of Quran now. (Musnad Ahmad, Hadith 21245)

(2) Abrogation of the text, but not its ruling: We are told that there were some ayah in Quran that no more exists in Quran now but they should be followed today. According to this story, the ‘stoning verse’ was recorded in Quran during the time of Prophet Muhammad; but after his death, a goat ate the page on which that verse was inscribed. Thus, the stoning verse has been abrogated physically. Ibn Maja, Nikah, 36/1944 and Musnad Imam Ibn Hanbal, 5/131,132,183; 6/269.

(3) Abrogation of the ruling, but not the text: It means there are ayah in Quran that will be recited but will not be practiced. For example: Ayah dealing with prohibition of alcohol; Ayah quoted above from the website about 2:256; Ayah dealing with kalala; Ayah dealing with fidya in context with fasting; Ayah dealing with marriage with ahle-kitab women etc. This is the type of abrogation which we are dealing in this article.

One important observation

Quran is a book that constantly urges its reader to ponder over it, understand its meaning and not be blind minded. The more one ponder over Quran better will be understanding. Scholars who declare abrogation in Quran have good intention. But piety does not always refer to intelligence level of a person. The passing of time has seen a tremendous fluctuation in the number of ayah alleged to have been abrogated.
 
Al-Zuhri (8th century AD), one of the first to write on the subject, mentioned 42 abrogated ayah in Quran,
Al-Nahhas (10th century AD), mentioned 138 abrogated ayah in Quran,
Ibn Salama (11th century AD), mentioned 238 abrogated ayah in Quran,
Ibn al-Ata’iqi (14th century AD), mentioned 231 abrogated ayah in Quran,
al-Suyutti (16th century AD),  declared 20 ayah of quran to be abrogated!
Shah Wali Allah (18th century AD), mentioned only 5 instances of abrogation in Quran!!
 
Will not Quran become a laughing stock where; as per some scholars there are 500 ayah in Quran which will be recited but not practiced; while some scholars say that 200 such ayah exists; and on the other extreme some scholars will tell that only 5 such ayah exists in Quran. The whole Quran will loose its beauty, its divinity. Why were they given to us in our constitution and guidance if we are not to obey them? Tell me-how come then Quran is divine? How come Quran is so wonderful book?
 
Attention: All so-called-examples of abrogation in Quran can be very well explained by pondering over the Quran. I am not going into detail for those. Each so-called-examples of abrogation require separate article.
 
Visit http://khurshidimam.blogspot.in/2011/12/marriage-with-ahle-kitab-women.html  for explanation regarding so called abrogation for “marriage with mushrik women” ayah.
If any human being had the right to declare some ayah of Quran to be abrogated then this right was for the one on whom Quran was revealed i.e. Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him). But he never declared any such thing.

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C. Concept of abrogation clearly contradicts with Quran
 
An anti-islamic writer writes – “Muslim authorities try to explain the internal apparent contradictions in the Qur’an by stating that certain passages of the Qur’an are annulled (Mansukh) by verses revealed chronologically later, known as Nasikh verses. Yet, there is by no means any certainty as to which disagreeing verses are mansukh and which are nasikh, since the order in which the Qur’an was compiled was not done chronologically“.
 
1. As it is crystal clear that the reason for evolution of abrogation concept is to solve the problem of seemingly-contradictory ayah in Quran. For example: Ayah dealing with prohibition of alcohol (2:219; 4:43; 5:90) perplexed scholars as they found it impossible to practice all three ayah. They misunderstood that there is contradiction in commandment of these 3 ayah; hence they declared first two ayah to be abrogated.
Actually no way there is any contradiction in these 3 ayah.
But, but, but… those people who feel that any two ayah of Quran is contradicting then they are agreeing that Quran is NOT AT ALL from GOD!!! Wait- don’t get angry. Look what Allah has to say:

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“Do they not consider the Qur’an with care? Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein many contradictions“. Quran-Surah Nisa 4:82

Quran tells that if Quran contains contradiction then Quran is not from God. So those people who believe in abrogation – which is because of assuming Quran contains contradictory ayah – are proving that Quran is not from God. The miracle of Quran is that it distinguishes right from wrong. Abrogation is clearly in contradiction to Quran.
 
2. How can Quran be a unique masterpiece, divine message if it cancels its own ruling?
What was the need then in the first place to reveal such ayah if Allah already knew that he is going to cancel his words? Its human words that contradict – word of Allah can never contradict, God can not go against his own words.
 
“No change can there be in the Words of Allah (Quran, Surah yunus 10:64)
“There is none that can alter the Words of Allah (Quran, Sura Anam 6:34)
 
If the Qur’an is indeed of divine authorship, and is perfect in its construction and style, no Ayah can be better than another; how then could one Ayah abrogate another? Is God not Wise and Far-Seeing enough to give rulings that are permanent? Abrogation of a law meant that it became illegal in the face of the one replacing it, and that this latter one was illegal while the former was in place. This would be to declare good as evil and evil as good, clearly not a divine activity
Almighty God mentions clearly that Allah can not change his words. It means if he has given a ruling for a particular issue-in a particular context and situation-then this can not change.
 
D. Does Quran support abrogation?
 
Supporter of abrogation quote one particular ayah in their support.
 
1. مَا نَنسَخْ مِنْ آيَةٍ أَوْ نُنسِهَا نَأْتِ بِخَيْرٍ مِّنْهَا أَوْ مِثْلِهَا
None of Our Ayah (sign) do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?” Quran-Surah Baqrah 2:106
 
a. People think that in this ayah Allah is talking about abrogation of Quranic ayah. They fail to realize that this ayah is also speaking about “forgetting of ayah”. So if you mean that Allah abrogates ayah in Quran then you have to agree that Allah makes you forget some of ayah of the Quran!!! This is ridiculous. 
The words “cause to be forgotten” could not be applicable if the word ‘Ayah’ in this ayah meant a verse in the Quran. How can a ayah in the Quran become forgotten? For even if the ayah was invalidated by another (as supporters of abrogation falsely claim) it will still be part of the Quran and thus could never be forgotten.
 
b. In this ayah-in fact-Allah is speaking about previous revelations. Previous revelations were forgotten with the passage of time and its some portion were abrogated by ayah of Quran. Abrogation  and  forgetting of ayah (With the passage of time previous revelation could not be preserved, hence gradually lost and forgotten)- both can be applied for previous revelation and NOT for Quran. This is simple and logical understanding.
 
c. The words “ We substitute something better or similar ” would be meaningless if the word ‘Ayah’ in this verse meant a Quranic verse, simply because it would make no sense for God to invalidate one verse then replace it with one that is identical to it! So actually this ayah is talking about abrogation of ayah (some ayah, not all ayah) of previous revelations. It is not talking about abrogation of quranic ayah.
 
E. Where we went wrong
 
With due respect to our pious scholars – the concept of abrogation propounded is not in sync with Quran. Quran is a miraculous book whose miracles would be revealing from time to time. If we don’t understand clearly what an ayah mean then we should say we don’t understand its meaning. Instead of this if we declare that this ayah is abrogated by some other ayah then we are moving in wrong direction. If we don’t understand something then lets leave it for future generations. May be – with more and more knowledge with time they will be able to comprehend it better.
 
For example – think about how number of abrogated ayah decreased from 500 to 20 and then 5. Piety is not necessarily an index of intelligence level of a person. When people pondered more and more over the Quran then they rejected 500 instances of abrogation and Imam syuti concluded that only 20 ayah of Quran are abrogated. Imam syuti did not make any mistake by disagreeing with early scholars in the number of instances of abrogation in Quran. He had full right to ponder over Quran and understand it. Similarly when Shah waliullah dehlavi disagreed with Imam syuti and solved the invalidated abrogation of 15 such ayah then he too did not do any wrong. He concluded that not 20 but actually only 5 ayah of Quran are abrogated.
So with the passage of time, with more wisdom, intellectual level and knowledge; muslim world made abrogation instances to be 5. So now if people ponder more over Quran and then they reduce instances of abrogation in Quran to be zero then they are not mistaken as they are trying honestly to do more pondering over Quran. Remember: time and again Quran asks its readers to ponder more and more over Quran.
 
E. Prohibition of Alcohol – An example of abrogation?

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The best example given in support of abrogation is prohibition of alcohol. People say that Alcohol was prohibited in 3 stages. People misunderstand that initially Quran permitted alcohol consumptionthen it asked people not to consume alcohol for some time and then finally Allah prohibited it completely. So – they say – first two ayah of this series are abrogated by the third ayah. Lets analyze it using simple translation and common sense.a. They ask you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) concerning alcoholic drink and gambling. Say: “In them is a great sin, and (some) benefit for men, but the sin of them is greater than their benefit.”…. (Quran, Surah baqrah 2:219)

b. O you who believe! Approach not As-Salat (the prayer) when you are in a drunken state until you know (the meaning) of what you utter……. (Quran, Surah Nisa 4:43)

c. O you who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, and Al-Ansab , and Al-Azlam (arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of Satan’s handiwork. So avoid that, in order that you may be successful. (Quran, Surah Maidah 5:90)

Traditional understanding is:
1. Quran initially permitted Alcohol. They cite 2:219 and 4:43 for their support.
2. Later these two ayah were abrogated by 5:90 in which Allah prohibited alcohol.
This example is the best example of abrogation as per the supporters pf abrogation.

However, a serious and careful understanding of these ayah make clear that none of the ayah is abrogated, none of the ayah contradict with any other one, all 3 ayah can be practised even today. This is the miracle of Quran that its each letter, each word and each sentence is divine.

1. 2:219 says that in alcohol there is some benefit for men, but harm is far more than benefit. That is true. Human being DO use it in chemical industry, in medicine. In cold countries people drink it to get warmth. It is also used in thermometers, as a solvent, and as a fuel.

Important point to note is that Quran is not saying that Alcohol is permitted for consumption. Had Quran mentioned here that “you can have alcohol” then it would have directly contradicted with 5:90 and then as per 4:82 we could say that Quran is not God’s word. But, alhamdulillah, God’s word is superior to human misunderstanding.

2. 4:43 says that do not approach for salah when you are in drunken state. Here many people get confused and assume that this ayah means that one can have alcohol when not going for salah. [If A is father of B then that does not always mean B is son of A. B can be daughter of A 🙂 ] They are mistaken. The word of Quran is very balanced. It conveys the meaning, give command and maintain the principle that Quranic ayah can NOT contradict. This ayah is not abrogated and it can be practised even today. Alcohol is prohibited (As per 5:90), yet there would be some bad muslims who would consume alcohol. Just like; zina (illegal physical relation) is prohibited but some people may do zina – that is why we have punishment for those who commit zina. Similarly for people who have consumed alcohol – for them instruction is that if they want to repent through salah or they want to offer salah then they should not go for salah till they are in sound mind, till the intoxicating effect of alcohol has gone. Please note-even in this ayah Allah is not saying at all that alcohol is permitted. This ayah does not contradict with 2:219 and 5:90

3. Finally 5:90 said that Alcohol is prohibited. It does not contradict any ayah; viz 2:219 and 4:43

Appreciate the beauty of Quran

This is the beauty of quran. Quranic ayah have multiple aspects. On the one hand these 3 ayah were prohibiting the custom of alcohol among arabs. The ayah revealed were perfectly in sync with human psychology. Its difficult for human beings to shun alcohol in one go. In gradual manner it is easier to stop drinking habit.
See how it was relevant that time when it was revelaed:
a. 2:219 gave indication to arabs that alcohol has bad effects. Quran told them that even though it has some good yet overall it is bad for human being.

b. Next ayah 4:43 made these arabs to stop alcohol for at least some hours a day. As per this ayah they should not approach salah when in drunken state. So for them that time they were supposed to avoid alcohol for 3-4 hours a day at least. Lets assume that 30 – 45 minutes before salah they should not consume it in order to be in sound state at the time of salah.

c. So with the passage of time people that time had decreased their drinking habit. Many had already shunned. As a last nail in the coffin – 5:90 made clear that it is prohibited. So keeping in the mind the psychological condition of human being these 3 ayah eradicated the evil of alcohol from the society.

These 3 ayah were practised that time by arabs. Even today these 3 ayah are relevant as explained earlier. Hence there is no contradiction in these 3 ayah, there is NO abrogation at all. Nothing is abrogated from Quran, not even a letter, not a word, not a sentence.

F. Conclusion

1. Majority of muslim scholars believe in the concept of abrogation in Quran. It means there are some ayah in the quran which does not hold good today. Its ruling has been cancelled by other particular ayah of the Quran.
 
2. This concept of abrogation makes Quran a laughing stock in the eyes of non-muslims. How a book that is divine and from Almighty God – can cancel and repeal its command? Is not God Most wise and far sighting?
 
3. There is difference of opinion among scholars how many and which all ayah of Quran are abrogated. While early scholars pointed out 500 such ayah, Imam suyuti narrowed down to 20 and as per Shah Waliulalh dehlavi Quran has 5 such ayah that are abrogated. Muslim world is NOT at all unanimous on what all ayah of Quran do not hold good today.
4. With the passage of time-as scholars pondered more and more over the Quran the number of abrogated ayah decreased from 500 to 5. Does not it mean that if we ponder more then this 5 can come down to zero?
 
5. The concept of abrogation of ayah came into existence because of seemingly contradictory meaning of two ayah. When it is found that two ayah of Quran can not hold true simultaneously then scholars declare one of of ayah to be abrogated. In simple words in order to get rid-off contradictory ayah in quran concept of abrogation was given. I am sorry to say-this understanding / concept is horribly wrong and against Quran, logic and common sense.
 
6. Quran makes clear that you will not find any two ayah of Quran contradicting. If you believe that Quran contains contradictory ayah then you have to agree that Quran is not from Allah (Surah Nisa 4:82). If there is abrogation in Quran then Quran is not God’s word.
 
7. If someone is unable to decipher the apparent contradiction in Quran then its better to keep silent on the issue rather declaring it abrogated. May be with the passage of time and with more and more pondering over Quran we will understand its clear meaning. In no case Quran can contain contradictory Ayah.
 
8. A general understanding among muslims is that prohibition of Alcohol, kalala, pace making wit non Muslims, inheritance etc – are examples of abrogation. All these ayah can be understood clearly without un-Quranic concept of abrogation.
 
9. Not a single letter, word or ayah of Quran is abrogated.
 
 
 
Note: * If you don’t agree with the mail then instead of giving fatwa of deviation / kufr / shirk / biddat – have faith in Allah and leave it to him to judge.
 
* Author: Khurshid Imam is software engineer at Bangalore, India. For any criticism / feedback / suggestion feel free to mail – serviceforhumanity@gmail.com
 
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Note: Heading of this article might suggest that we are going to have in depth discussion about islamic and Hindu scripture – but that is not the case. I have tried to give example of just 2-3 mantr of vedas. The emphasis – as of now – is not on the CONTENT of scripture ; rather APPROACH towards scripture.

I was going through vedic mantr; i found something interesting. Mantr from Atharva Ved 6th Kand, 50th Sukt and Mantr no 1-3 deal with protecting crops from animals, birds and insects. It recommends one to kill those birds, animals and insects that harm the crop. This is of course logical and obvious; because if we let other animals destroy crop then we human being will not have anything to eat. Almighty God has made human beings in such a way that diet of human being is only and only living things. Apart from that; Almighty God has subjected animals and plants to human beings.

After reading those mantras one can resort to two approach:

1> Conflicting approach :

In this approach one tries to find more and more problems with others. Understand things in ways so that they appear him / her to be wrong and absurd. Honesty is less evident in this case. If i use this approach then my conclusion could be something like following:

a. “Vedas preach barbarism”.
b. “Vedas teach to KILL animals”.
c. “Vedas preach brutality when it says to kill animals, insects and birds”.
d. “Hinduism is barbaric religion”…
…..
and so on

Please note – in above conclusions i am completely ignoring the context of mantras. These mantras are specific to the case of saving crops from other creatures. In short – its about the particular case and situation wherein human beings are permitted to kill animal, birds and insects. If we don’t do this then we will have bigger harm.

2> Conciliatory approach:

In this approach one tries to conciliate as much as possible – but without being dishonest. If there can be two correct interpretation – one that goes against my understanding and another that goes in sync with my understanding then its wiser and better to have later one. When you meet someone and instead of agreeing on common things, you start fighting with each other then its childish and immature approach.

Many people – in order to dominate and humiliate people of other faith resort to this approach. They lambaste others faith , scriptures etc. But in return what they get? Hate – abuse – counter attacks and disharmony. A constructive discussion would have lead to positive and better result.

If we have 10 differences and 10 commonalities then its better to agree on commonalities, stand for it, propagate it.

Atharva Ved 6th Kand, 50th Sukt and Mantr no 1-3

“O ashwin! Kill the crow, the swine, the rat – cut off their heads and crush their ribs. They should not eat barley. Bind fast their mouths.” –

Then mantr 2 and 3 also speaks about preventing loss of crops from insects and other creatures by killing them – “we crush and mangle all those piercing insects” – or asking them to go away.

You can check hindi translation from – http://www.aryasamajjamnagar.org/athrvaveda/atharvaveda.htm
English translation here : http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/av/av06050.htm

Conclusion:

1. Can we have more and more harmony among various faith?
2. Can we open doors of love and brother hood and destroy house of hate?
3. Can we have more conciliatory approach without indulging in cheating, lying and being dishonest?
4. Can we ???

Note: * If you don’t agree with the mail then instead of giving fatwa of deviation / kufr / shirk / biddat – have faith in Allah and leave it to him to judge.

* Author: Khurshid Imam is software engineer at Bangalore, India. For any criticism / feedback / suggestion feel free to mail – serviceforhumanity@gmail.com

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